Asking cops for a break
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From: Jacksonville Florida
I don't blame anyone for asking an officer for a break. You're right, that is human nature.
But I do take exception to your expectation that because you are a physician you deserve exemption from following the law. Your stated disbelief in the "pay if you play" philosophy is simply another way of saying that because you're a doctor you shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for your actions. Frankly, I find that both arrogant and offensive coming from a physician. Are we to assume you carry that same attitude into the ER? Because you're an MD you shouldn't be responsible there, either?
Who or what puts doctors above the traffic laws the rest of us must follow? Where does it say that if you are an MD you can do whatever the hell you want to behind the wheel of a car and you don't need to abide by the law simply because you don't believe in a philosophy of accountability?
With all due respect to your additional education and training - you are simply no better than the rest of us, and certainly you are only equal to us under the law.
Personally, Doctor, I'd suggest that you go heal yourself first.
But I do take exception to your expectation that because you are a physician you deserve exemption from following the law. Your stated disbelief in the "pay if you play" philosophy is simply another way of saying that because you're a doctor you shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for your actions. Frankly, I find that both arrogant and offensive coming from a physician. Are we to assume you carry that same attitude into the ER? Because you're an MD you shouldn't be responsible there, either?
Who or what puts doctors above the traffic laws the rest of us must follow? Where does it say that if you are an MD you can do whatever the hell you want to behind the wheel of a car and you don't need to abide by the law simply because you don't believe in a philosophy of accountability?
With all due respect to your additional education and training - you are simply no better than the rest of us, and certainly you are only equal to us under the law.
Personally, Doctor, I'd suggest that you go heal yourself first.
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2005
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Dropping what you do for a living is just that, dropping what you do for a living on the officer just like they "told you to do" in NY. You EXPECTED to get out of the ticket by then asking for a break. Give ME a break.
I could see if you told him you were a doc OR asked for a break, but not both. Sounds like a whinning to me, and you got your fellings hurt. So sad, slow down! I'm not reading the 18 other associate threads either. If you want to get out of a ticket become a DA, LEO or judge, or, don't pass 7 cars at once.
I was riding with my brother who runs a trauma center. His best buddy is a DA. He got pulled for a bulb out. He did not begin to name or profession drop no matter what the offence was. (No ticket either)
Stand up guy, that brother of mine.
I could see if you told him you were a doc OR asked for a break, but not both. Sounds like a whinning to me, and you got your fellings hurt. So sad, slow down! I'm not reading the 18 other associate threads either. If you want to get out of a ticket become a DA, LEO or judge, or, don't pass 7 cars at once.
I was riding with my brother who runs a trauma center. His best buddy is a DA. He got pulled for a bulb out. He did not begin to name or profession drop no matter what the offence was. (No ticket either)
Stand up guy, that brother of mine.
Melting Slicks
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From: Boulder CO.
I have talked myself out a ticket many times. First impression is important. I try not to insult the intelligence of the cop. I show respect, and try not to talk too much as far as trying to look or sound dumb.
I usually pull over where is safe for both me, and the cop pulling me over. I keep my hands on the steering wheel where he can see them, have all my documentation ready, make solid eye contact, be courteous, and that usually does the trick. This has worked for me on borderline moving violations where the cop can give me a ticket if he/she wants to. However, I believe that if you have a major infraction, or a blantant violation, he's not going to give you a break.
Bottom line is; I never ask for a break, or show fear. I do however try not to give him a reason to write me a ticket. I think when you get pulled over, the cop at that precise moment has not made up his mind whether he's going to give you a ticket or not. It's after the first contact with you, and while he's running your license that he starts to assess all the information, and his first impression of you.
Remember, he has heard more excuses than you can make up.
-Goose
I usually pull over where is safe for both me, and the cop pulling me over. I keep my hands on the steering wheel where he can see them, have all my documentation ready, make solid eye contact, be courteous, and that usually does the trick. This has worked for me on borderline moving violations where the cop can give me a ticket if he/she wants to. However, I believe that if you have a major infraction, or a blantant violation, he's not going to give you a break.
Bottom line is; I never ask for a break, or show fear. I do however try not to give him a reason to write me a ticket. I think when you get pulled over, the cop at that precise moment has not made up his mind whether he's going to give you a ticket or not. It's after the first contact with you, and while he's running your license that he starts to assess all the information, and his first impression of you.
Remember, he has heard more excuses than you can make up.
-Goose
Last edited by Wicked LT1; Jan 2, 2006 at 02:23 AM.
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2003
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From: Discovery Bay...of Sunny CA
Originally Posted by Wicked LT1
I have talked myself out a ticket many times. First impression is important. I try not to insult the intelligence of the cop. I show respect, and try not to talk too much as far as trying to look or sound dumb.
I usually pull over where is safe for both me, and the cop pulling me over. I keep my hands on the steering wheel where he can see them, have all my documentation ready, make solid eye contact, be courteous, and that usually does the trick. This has worked for me on borderline moving violations where the cop can give me a ticket if he/she wants to. However, I believe that if you have a major infraction, or a blantant violation, he's not going to give you a break.
Bottom line is; I never ask for a break, or show fear. I do however try not to give him a reason to write me a ticket. I think when you get pulled over, the cop at that precise moment has not made up his mind whether he's going to give you a ticket or not. It's after the first contact with you, and while he's running your license that he starts to assess all the information, and his first impression of you.
Remember, he has heard more excuses than you can make up.
-Goose
I usually pull over where is safe for both me, and the cop pulling me over. I keep my hands on the steering wheel where he can see them, have all my documentation ready, make solid eye contact, be courteous, and that usually does the trick. This has worked for me on borderline moving violations where the cop can give me a ticket if he/she wants to. However, I believe that if you have a major infraction, or a blantant violation, he's not going to give you a break.
Bottom line is; I never ask for a break, or show fear. I do however try not to give him a reason to write me a ticket. I think when you get pulled over, the cop at that precise moment has not made up his mind whether he's going to give you a ticket or not. It's after the first contact with you, and while he's running your license that he starts to assess all the information, and his first impression of you.
Remember, he has heard more excuses than you can make up.
-Goose
..It has worked for me in the past... 
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Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
I don't blame anyone for asking an officer for a break. You're right, that is human nature.
But I do take exception to your expectation that because you are a physician you deserve exemption from following the law. Your stated disbelief in the "pay if you play" philosophy is simply another way of saying that because you're a doctor you shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for your actions. Frankly, I find that both arrogant and offensive coming from a physician. Are we to assume you carry that same attitude into the ER? Because you're an MD you shouldn't be responsible there, either?
Who or what puts doctors above the traffic laws the rest of us must follow? Where does it say that if you are an MD you can do whatever the hell you want to behind the wheel of a car and you don't need to abide by the law simply because you don't believe in a philosophy of accountability?
With all due respect to your additional education and training - you are simply no better than the rest of us, and certainly you are only equal to us under the law.
Personally, Doctor, I'd suggest that you go heal yourself first.
But I do take exception to your expectation that because you are a physician you deserve exemption from following the law. Your stated disbelief in the "pay if you play" philosophy is simply another way of saying that because you're a doctor you shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for your actions. Frankly, I find that both arrogant and offensive coming from a physician. Are we to assume you carry that same attitude into the ER? Because you're an MD you shouldn't be responsible there, either?
Who or what puts doctors above the traffic laws the rest of us must follow? Where does it say that if you are an MD you can do whatever the hell you want to behind the wheel of a car and you don't need to abide by the law simply because you don't believe in a philosophy of accountability?
With all due respect to your additional education and training - you are simply no better than the rest of us, and certainly you are only equal to us under the law.
Personally, Doctor, I'd suggest that you go heal yourself first.
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Asking for a break from a LEO is cool.... getting pissed off and abusing people here on the forum because you didnt get one and no one agrees with you... isnt cool.
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