[Z06] Ideal auto-x setup?
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Ideal auto-x setup?
I'm going to do some auto-cross events in my new Z.
What would be your list of ideal auto-x mods for the Z06? Especially in the suspension/handling dept.
Not that I'm going to do much to it, just curious.
What would be your list of ideal auto-x mods for the Z06? Especially in the suspension/handling dept.
Not that I'm going to do much to it, just curious.
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^ None, run in SS and learn the car first! Feel what it does... figure out what characteristics you like and dislike, then mod from there.
Normal basic mods would include lowering with an agressive track allignment, but the track allignment would sacrifice tire wear depending on the settings you choose, especially the front toe out.
Normal basic mods would include lowering with an agressive track allignment, but the track allignment would sacrifice tire wear depending on the settings you choose, especially the front toe out.
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Drop the car 15mm frt and rear. put on a set of Hawk HP+'s and get as much seat time as you can. these are amazing cars they don't need many mods on them to make them very competitive.
I'm running SS lines and Motul fluid with HP+ pads and the brakes are outstanding. This year I will be adding 04 shocks and T1 sway bars should make for a really nice setup. the car is an 03 Z06 daily driver and weekend track rat. Just get as much time behind the wheel as you can. that will yield you the most improvement.
I'm running SS lines and Motul fluid with HP+ pads and the brakes are outstanding. This year I will be adding 04 shocks and T1 sway bars should make for a really nice setup. the car is an 03 Z06 daily driver and weekend track rat. Just get as much time behind the wheel as you can. that will yield you the most improvement.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
^ None, run in SS and learn the car first! Feel what it does... figure out what characteristics you like and dislike, then mod from there.
Normal basic mods would include lowering with an agressive track allignment, but the track allignment would sacrifice tire wear depending on the settings you choose, especially the front toe out.
Normal basic mods would include lowering with an agressive track allignment, but the track allignment would sacrifice tire wear depending on the settings you choose, especially the front toe out.
I would add that if you are serious you should conrner weight the car, it doesn't cost much and you will have done it right, then you will have consistent handling in both directions..
After a bit (like a season) with street tires, you can go to serious meats (v710's) on stock Z wheels. After that a set of 04 z shocks or Konis and you are set for anything that comes along in the stock class...
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Originally Posted by Solofast
I would add that if you are serious you should conrner weight the car, it doesn't cost much and you will have done it right, then you will have consistent handling in both directions..
After a bit (like a season) with street tires, you can go to serious meats (v710's) on stock Z wheels. After that a set of 04 z shocks or Konis and you are set for anything that comes along in the stock class...
Seriously, drive the car completely as-is, just play w/ tire pressure to slightly adjust the handling characteristics.
The cars are immensely capable, out-of-the-box; and it will take you a good long while until you reach its limits.
Have the car driven by some experienced Vette drivers @ your events & go w/ them to observe what they're doing w/ the car--this is a tremendous learning experience.
Have fun!
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Originally Posted by mkiv808
Should I be in Competition Mode when I auto-x the first few times?
I'd turn it off after your first few events, then don't go back to it--unless it rains...
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Originally Posted by mkiv808
Should I be in Competition Mode when I auto-x the first few times?
Like everyone else said, leave it alone at least until you figure out what class you really want to run in, then figure out what you're allowed to do in that class. Then, based on your capabilities as a driver, start modding towards that class.
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Your comment that you plan on doing events before touching the car is sound not only from improving your driving abilities, but also in getting a sense of how serious you want to be and evaluating what class you want to participate in (if you want to get serious about it). In looking through some of the recommendations posted previously, the mods would put you in a higher class.
So, have fun, decide how much a part of your life you want autocrossing to be, and then plan/budget appropriately. But most of all, have fun and enjoy the folks you'll meet.
So, have fun, decide how much a part of your life you want autocrossing to be, and then plan/budget appropriately. But most of all, have fun and enjoy the folks you'll meet.
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I try to not use the "competition mode" at all unless it is really wet...
What I have noticed is that when in competition mode if you get into a situation where you are trying to turn a bit more than the car wants to turn, or are sometimes coming out of a corner under power while the car is pushing a bit the system is activating the rear brakes to help turn the car... That would be fine, since it is saving your run by helping turn the car, but you can feel the diff winding up and catching as the rear brakes force the diff to unlock (by braking one rear wheel to help pivot the car) and then catching as the brakes come off. That additional slippage in the diff isn't going to be good at all for clutch plate life....
I have seen and also heard of some cases of premature diff clutch wear in some folks who are autocrossing extensively... I am just wondering if they are using the competition mode, and, while it is saving their butts on the course is is also wearing out the clutches in the diff at a faster rate....
What I have noticed is that when in competition mode if you get into a situation where you are trying to turn a bit more than the car wants to turn, or are sometimes coming out of a corner under power while the car is pushing a bit the system is activating the rear brakes to help turn the car... That would be fine, since it is saving your run by helping turn the car, but you can feel the diff winding up and catching as the rear brakes force the diff to unlock (by braking one rear wheel to help pivot the car) and then catching as the brakes come off. That additional slippage in the diff isn't going to be good at all for clutch plate life....
I have seen and also heard of some cases of premature diff clutch wear in some folks who are autocrossing extensively... I am just wondering if they are using the competition mode, and, while it is saving their butts on the course is is also wearing out the clutches in the diff at a faster rate....
