Legit new column lock question... help, please.
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Burning Brakes
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Legit new column lock question... help, please.
My '99 MN6 vert has had early gm recall (2005) and the aftermarket clb installed. Of late, I've gotten several "Pull Key Wait 10 Seconds" and ultimately sometimes "Service Column Lock System" which, of course, shuts off fuel delivery at 1.5 mph. Will the "new" gm recall finally fix this problem? Nerve-wracking to know this monster could rear its ugly head at any time. BTW, I am scheduling the "new" recall asap. 
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Originally Posted by Batmbl
My '99 MN6 vert has had early gm recall (2005) and the aftermarket clb installed. Of late, I've gotten several "Pull Key Wait 10 Seconds" and ultimately sometimes "Service Column Lock System" which, of course, shuts off fuel delivery at 1.5 mph. Will the "new" gm recall finally fix this problem? Nerve-wracking to know this monster could rear its ugly head at any time. BTW, I am scheduling the "new" recall asap.
The new recall should fix it, unless you want to install another aftermarket bypass and see if that corrects the problem.
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Originally Posted by TOPGUN9
I've never heard of a CLB failing. Either they work, or they don't work right off the bat. Where did you get your CLB from?
Maybe something isnt hooked up right.
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Originally Posted by TOPGUN9
I've never heard of a CLB failing. Either they work, or they don't work right off the bat. Where did you get your CLB from?
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From: Raleigh NC
Originally Posted by Batmbl
It has worked fine for over a year. Lately, though, I get the dreaded message far too often. The clb came from MAM. Will check with my mechanic on what he did as far as installation. Thanks for the reply.
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Originally Posted by barrynk
Coincidentally, I got the dreaded "Pull key, wait 10 seconds" yesterday, for the first time EVER. I had installed a CLB about 2 weeks with no problems. I also had the 2005 recall procedure (computer flash only) performed.
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Just a thought. Did you have the CLB already installed when the "early GM recall" was done? If so, you might pull the dash panel to see if the tech disconnected the CLB.
I have read on here where one dealership actully pulled the CLB, and tried to charge the person labor for removing it, when they did the recall .
May be worth a look see. I have also heard mention of the CLB's not working on 98/99 model years
Good luck.
I have read on here where one dealership actully pulled the CLB, and tried to charge the person labor for removing it, when they did the recall
.May be worth a look see. I have also heard mention of the CLB's not working on 98/99 model years
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by roscoe118
Just a thought. Did you have the CLB already installed when the "early GM recall" was done? If so, you might pull the dash panel to see if the tech disconnected the CLB.
I have read on here where one dealership actully pulled the CLB, and tried to charge the person labor for removing it, when they did the recall .
May be worth a look see. I have also heard mention of the CLB's not working on 98/99 model years
Good luck.
I have read on here where one dealership actully pulled the CLB, and tried to charge the person labor for removing it, when they did the recall
.May be worth a look see. I have also heard mention of the CLB's not working on 98/99 model years
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Batmbl
Thanks for that input, Roscoe118. That is a distinct possibility. The clb was done after the first recall. Right now I have had trouble with the fuel shutting off but the wheel never does lock. Have an appt Monday to do the new recall.
Something has to be plugged into the harness going to the BCM to keep the fuel from being shutoff, the actuator or the CLB, so the BCM thinks the actuator is unlocked and will not shut off the fuel.
I would pull the lower panel and see for myself which one is connected to the wiring harness.
Although not common, the CLB is just a relay and I would think could fail just like any other electrical device.
I have read that the new recall will install a GM Harness K kit, which is a harness with a relay to satisfy the BCM, and I know some of the relays in the GM kit have failed. Even though the lockplate will be removed, the relay harness still has to work to keep the fuel from being shut off.
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Originally Posted by Batmbl
Thanks for that input, Roscoe118. That is a distinct possibility. The clb was done after the first recall. Right now I have had trouble with the fuel shutting off but the wheel never does lock. Have an appt Monday to do the new recall.
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
If the wheel never locks, then either the actuator was plugged in and is now stuck in the unlocked position, or the actuator is disconnected (CLB installed).
Something has to be plugged into the harness going to the BCM to keep the fuel from being shutoff, the actuator or the CLB, so the BCM thinks the actuator is unlocked and will not shut off the fuel.
I would pull the lower panel and see for myself which one is connected to the wiring harness.
Although not common, the CLB is just a relay and I would think could fail just like any other electrical device.
I have read that the new recall will install a GM Harness K kit, which is a harness with a relay to satisfy the BCM, and I know some of the relays in the GM kit have failed. Even though the lockplate will be removed, the relay harness still has to work to keep the fuel from being shut off.
Something has to be plugged into the harness going to the BCM to keep the fuel from being shutoff, the actuator or the CLB, so the BCM thinks the actuator is unlocked and will not shut off the fuel.
I would pull the lower panel and see for myself which one is connected to the wiring harness.
Although not common, the CLB is just a relay and I would think could fail just like any other electrical device.
I have read that the new recall will install a GM Harness K kit, which is a harness with a relay to satisfy the BCM, and I know some of the relays in the GM kit have failed. Even though the lockplate will be removed, the relay harness still has to work to keep the fuel from being shut off.
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Originally Posted by WWK888
I am confused...if the CLB was installed AFTER the first recall, how could it have been (possibly) disconnected by a dealership technician? It wasn't there when he performed the recall.
