[Z06] 600rwhp Enough for 9s?
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600rwhp Enough for 9s?
Z06 heads/cam 450rwhp on motor 615rwhp on a 175 shot.
Stock trans w/ hurst, spec 5 clutch
Stock rear(
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I went 10.90s back when I had just the 100 jets in and longtubes on MT drag radials...
Can I hit a 9 on the big jets? Do I need ET Streets? Am I gonna grenade something?
Anyone recommend a strong daily driver clutch? This is my 3rd Spec Lvl 5... It grips great but wears out super quickly.
Stock trans w/ hurst, spec 5 clutch
Stock rear(
)I went 10.90s back when I had just the 100 jets in and longtubes on MT drag radials...
Can I hit a 9 on the big jets? Do I need ET Streets? Am I gonna grenade something?
Anyone recommend a strong daily driver clutch? This is my 3rd Spec Lvl 5... It grips great but wears out super quickly.
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For that kind of HP to get a car in the 9s, you really need a sorted out suspension as it will take 60' times in the 1.30s (or better) unless you have BIG HP. And a relatively stock Z06 isn't considered light weight in drag racing terms.
As a point of reference, a friend of mine has a 3100lb S10 (yes truck) wiht a 406 that makes 850HP CHP. He has gone 1.28 60' with big Quick Time Pros and that got him very deep mid-9s.
As a point of reference, a friend of mine has a 3100lb S10 (yes truck) wiht a 406 that makes 850HP CHP. He has gone 1.28 60' with big Quick Time Pros and that got him very deep mid-9s.
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Originally Posted by LT-4 CE
For that kind of HP to get a car in the 9s, you really need a sorted out suspension as it will take 60' times in the 1.30s (or better) unless you have BIG HP. And a relatively stock Z06 isn't considered light weight in drag racing terms.
As a point of reference, a friend of mine has a 3100lb S10 (yes truck) wiht a 406 that makes 850HP CHP. He has gone 1.28 60' with big Quick Time Pros and that got him very deep mid-9s.
As a point of reference, a friend of mine has a 3100lb S10 (yes truck) wiht a 406 that makes 850HP CHP. He has gone 1.28 60' with big Quick Time Pros and that got him very deep mid-9s.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
I'd start saving for a DTE dif and dif brace setup. Do you do the clutch swaps yourself? Other wise you've spend a mint in labor.
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Originally Posted by F1_SS
How is the motor even alive at 615rwhp unless you are forged?
My understanding is basically you need 100hp to cut 1 sec off. This way sway a little but its pretty much true (give or take).
My understanding is basically you need 100hp to cut 1 sec off. This way sway a little but its pretty much true (give or take).
I think the car would go low 10s but not 9s I think I'd need around 650rwhp to get in the 9s.
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Originally Posted by TravG
I just run 103 when I spray. Head/cam + 150 shot cars are very common... Don't see what the big deal is.
I think the car would go low 10s but not 9s I think I'd need around 650rwhp to get in the 9s.
I think the car would go low 10s but not 9s I think I'd need around 650rwhp to get in the 9s.
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Originally Posted by TravG
Ok so I went 10.90 with ~450rwhp and Drag Radials, but 9.90s arent possible with ET Street or full on slicks and 615rwhp? What do you think I'd run? Thats 165 more rwhp and even more rwtq.
So, You ran a 10.90 with 450rwhp and 100shot?
If I hear this correct It took you 450rwhp And 100shot to run a 10.90?? You should have been running 10.80's On motor with a 1.40's 60ft and with a 100 shot of gas 10.09 and 150shot 9.90's 
I think some of it might be in your driven skills... I went 7.54@99.8 1/8th On stock tires and It was wheel hopping like a crack ***** that just won the lotto
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Originally Posted by G5x4Drag
So, You ran a 10.90 with 450rwhp and 100shot? If I hear this correct It took you 450rwhp And 100shot to run a 10.90?? You should have been running 10.80's On motor with a 1.40's 60ft and with a 100 shot of gas 10.09 and 150shot 9.90's
I think some of it might be in your driven skills... I went 7.54@99.8 1/8th On stock tires and It was wheel hopping like a crack ***** that just won the lotto
If I hear this correct It took you 450rwhp And 100shot to run a 10.90?? You should have been running 10.80's On motor with a 1.40's 60ft and with a 100 shot of gas 10.09 and 150shot 9.90's I think some of it might be in your driven skills... I went 7.54@99.8 1/8th On stock tires and It was wheel hopping like a crack ***** that just won the lotto
The car dyno'd a little low for a stock Z06. Not sure what it was making when I went the 10.90 but it just had a halltech stinger and longtubes and the 100 shot. NOTHING else. On BFG DRs. 10.90@128(not sure on the mph I think it was 128 though)
Last edited by TravG; Mar 20, 2006 at 09:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by TravG
Car made ~350 on motor and 450 on the 100 shot. So I ran 10.90 with 450rwhp. You were NOT reading correctly.
Also, it takes much more hp to go from 10.99-9.99 than it does to go from say 11.99-10.99. Most people overlook this fact. Plus you have to factor in aerodynamics and traction.
In perfect conditions and the great driving I think 100 shot on a nicely setup H/C car can maybe sqeak out a 9.99.(but the car might have to be setup with nos in mind). I've seen auto with 150 shot run9.9x's but they were stroked.(402,418,427)
My buddys auto 427 c5 ran 10.61 na and 9.85 with a 200shot on the same day. It's just tough to run nines period. Also, different cams respond very differently to nitrous and then you have the gearing issue. If I was to put a 100 shot on my car I would slamm the limiter in 4th before the traps. Alot to think about.
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Originally Posted by robz
Keep in mind it's not only the hp. You have to shift the crap out of it and hold traction to run 9's in a stick. Not too many stick cars run 9's period especially with 346.
Also, it takes much more hp to go from 10.99-9.99 than it does to go from say 11.99-10.99. Most people overlook this fact. Plus you have to factor in aerodynamics and traction.
In perfect conditions and the great driving I think 100 shot on a nicely setup H/C car can maybe sqeak out a 9.99.(but the car might have to be setup with nos in mind). I've seen auto with 150 shot run9.9x's but they were stroked.(402,418,427)
My buddys auto 427 c5 ran 10.61 na and 9.85 with a 200shot on the same day. It's just tough to run nines period. Also, different cams respond very differently to nitrous and then you have the gearing issue. If I was to put a 100 shot on my car I would slamm the limiter in 4th before the traps. Alot to think about.
Also, it takes much more hp to go from 10.99-9.99 than it does to go from say 11.99-10.99. Most people overlook this fact. Plus you have to factor in aerodynamics and traction.
In perfect conditions and the great driving I think 100 shot on a nicely setup H/C car can maybe sqeak out a 9.99.(but the car might have to be setup with nos in mind). I've seen auto with 150 shot run9.9x's but they were stroked.(402,418,427)
My buddys auto 427 c5 ran 10.61 na and 9.85 with a 200shot on the same day. It's just tough to run nines period. Also, different cams respond very differently to nitrous and then you have the gearing issue. If I was to put a 100 shot on my car I would slamm the limiter in 4th before the traps. Alot to think about.
Heres my thinking. I went from 11.90 to 10.90 by adding the 100 shot and changing from stock tires to drag radials.. so now I'll be adding 165 more RWHP(Heads/cam/175 jet instead of 100) and changing to ET Streets/Drags.
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Originally Posted by TravG
Ok so I went 10.90 with ~450rwhp and Drag Radials, but 9.90s arent possible with ET Street or full on slicks and 615rwhp? What do you think I'd run? Thats 165 more rwhp and even more rwtq.
Don't get me wrong, yor car sounds very impressive, but it takes more than HP to get a car in the 9s. The combination must be very well sorted out (HP, trans, gears, tires, suspension, and driver skill are a few).
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Originally Posted by LT-4 CE
There is a concept of diminishing returns in drag racing. As a relatively stock car, a 100 shot of juice will have huge gains. As you start searching for 9s, it takes more than HP. Drive line efficiency is key as is a serious 60' time. There are cars on here running 9s without 1.3X 60' times, but they are making huge power. For you to get 615RWHP in the 9s, I really think you'll need front and rear shock and plenty of track time to dial in the settings, you'll be very much at the limit of the rear end - especially if you hit the spray off the line (which I think you'd need to do to go 9s).
Don't get me wrong, yor car sounds very impressive, but it takes more than HP to get a car in the 9s. The combination must be very well sorted out (HP, trans, gears, tires, suspension, and driver skill are a few).
Don't get me wrong, yor car sounds very impressive, but it takes more than HP to get a car in the 9s. The combination must be very well sorted out (HP, trans, gears, tires, suspension, and driver skill are a few).
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Maybe it is just us, but we have produced a handfull of nine sec cars now, and they all took waaaaay over 600rwhp to get them there. But like I said, maybe thats just us. Good luck in your quest for nines. 