My wife wants one of those and we'll probably end up with one which is fine by me

 

The top was off the car, right?

Sorry... I just had to do it.

 

I stopped by the corvette museum yesterday and saw a new dk blue Z06 and that car looks awesome. I love how the roof has the same body lines as the coupe. The flared fenders and brake scoops were a nice touch also. That car looks bad as hell!! I was thinking of buying a Porsche next but now I think I'll make the '06 Z06 my next purchase. Maybe in 4 or 5 years, I can afford one. James

 

Here are a few cobra track times:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-8120.html
Trapped 108
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-4077.html
Trapped
108
Mildly Modified:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-2689.html
Trapped 112
Here is with a pulley:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...slip-5563.html
Trapped 117 with the pulley.

I couldn’t find any stock ones trapping over 110 on this website but I am sure there are some. My point is Cobras do NOT Trap 116 stock unless it’s some kind of super factory freak. How is it so far fetched for you to believe I pulled a stock 03 cobra? Look at it this way:
Stock Cobras dyno 350ish rwhp right? Lets say when I had Vararam and catback I had 310 rwhp.

Cobras weigh 3664 lbs
A 1997 C5 weighs 3218 lbs

Cobra weight to power ratio:
3664 / 350 = 10.469

Corvette Weight to Power Ratio:
3218 / 310 = 10.38

That is a damn close weight to power ratio. Add in the Slight advantage of the aerodynamics of the C5 and I have a slight advantage from a roll. Is this really hard to understand? I’m sorry your unbeatable Cobra lost.

Here is a Motor Trend Article of a C5 Vert vs a Cobra Vert:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
Corvette went 13.02 @ 109.59 and Cobra went 13.12 @ 109.58
Albeit, a Cobra Vert is a little heavier than a Cobra Coupe but when my car had a cat-back and the Vararam intake I believe it makes up for that difference.

Lastly here is a video of a C5 corvette vs a 04 Cobra. Both have an Intake/Exhaust. And the C5 won…But that is not possible! Cobras can’t lose to a C5 non-Z06.

http://video.ls1tech.com/player.aspx...D-6F386D093D70

P.S. I never said I would beat a new Z06. I know I can’t. I am pointing out that a C5 with a few simple mods can pull a STOCK 03 cobra. I NEVER said I pulled one with a pulley.

 

I am no expert. But I ran my 97 Z-28 mn6 (stock expect for a K&N) at the track against many stangs and cobras, obviously not the new ones. I was only beat by a older GT that had been really worked on and was a strip car only, with drag slicks on it.

I messed around with one of the new corbras in my vette and he could not pull with me. We only ran from a couple of lights and I was only into 2nd, then I got out of it. He could not keep with me up to 65 or 70

My favorite statement is that someone is always faster than you. The only true stock runs are put on by the magizines. People tend to lie, distort, and deny the truth about their cars.

 

I agree, there is always someone faster. But, mean lx will give you an . Because it is not possible for a 03 cobra to lose to a non-Z06 C5. They are not even in the same league.

 

The real sad thing is that the $$$ per mod for the Vette vs. the Mustang drives me nuts. What I have to drop on the Vette vs. what my older brother drops on his 04 Cobra is rediculous! $ per Hp is totally not in our favor.

 

I agree, most cars that have forced induction make more power easily. Look at the EVOs, one of my friends put a boost controller on it and an exhaust and it when 12.5 @113 mph. We also have to pay the corvette tax.

 

Did anyone here actually buy their C5 so they could street race mustangs? the C5 is a total package, mustangs are a dime a dozen, you see them everywhere. There is absolutely no comparison in the two cars..
you can buy on old Honda, and invest 20 grand and blow the doors off most cars out there.. it will still be a Honda.
Same thing with the mustang,, its still a mustang.

 

Mustang drivers must be insecure and feel the need to try and prove themselves against the Corvette. I picked up my vette at the transport company a few days ago and before I had driven 2 miles I already had a mustang racing through traffic to catch up to me just so he could pull up beside me and rev it up. What a douch bag.

I can guarantee you take a vette and a mustang to the autoX stock vs stock and the vette will eat it up alive. the vette is a total package, the mustang is a raw dog hot rod. It'll smoke tires and chew up asphalt with the best of em but in the end it's still just a mustang. They sound good and run good it's just they are not the same class of car the corvette is.

 

The comparison was in fact... that he can pull 03 Cobras with a basically stock C-5. It wasn't a thread about which is the best overall car; you'll never get an argument out of me on that. You guys always fail to realize that.

If you are comparing a convertible Cobra to your C-5 than yes the 300 lb difference would make it closer. Just because someone owns a Cobra, doesn't mean they can drive it either (just like a lot of the guys here with vetes). No vette , will ever launch like a Mustang without doing MAJOR suspension work.

I built an everyday driver 306 for my friends mustang (fox body) and with 8.5" slicks it ran 7.80's in the eighth and sixty footed 1.61 with a completely stock suspension. Do that with your vette! That was with the crappy stock exhaust and shorties. He now has a decent long tube header with 3" exhaust, and should easily run 7.60's. I don't know where you guy's get your figures from, but we must obviously be going to different tracks. His car will never look like a vette and will never corner like a vette but, It does run through the eighth or the quarter much quicker than a vette. James

 

Ignore them Probably drive them more crazy than taking them on the line.

 

No way! They weigh almost 1000 pounds more.

 

mean lx I have to agree

I have to agree with you there. I have an 85 coupe with a 306 with basic stuff and my car averages around 7.20's @ 97mph. M/T drag radial's and stock suspension bolt on's give me normally around a 1.45 60 foot.

 

I'm skeeeeeeered.......

 

Guys, my last car was an 03 Cobra.

With ported blower, exhaust, intake, and pulley, I ran 11.3@126 and made 501rwhp/478rwtq.

03 Cobras are NO JOKE. One of the best muscle cars ever produced, in my mind. The c5 is much more refined, but in terms of raw speed, a regular c5 won't touch an 03 cobra...let the modding begin and it's certainly lights out for the c5. Just a CATBACK and intake on an 03 cobra gets them over 400 at the wheels.

Give credit where it's due...Ford actually got something right with the 03/04 cobra!!

 

"Even if" the Mustang is faster, the Vette is the superior, more sophisticated, more respected vehicle as far as I'm concerned.

 

Yes they can gain a lot of power for not very much money, but they are pigs. A 425rwhp Z06 would easily take down a 500rwhp Cobra. Im not impressed either way. I could mod a civic to 500 hp. The only thing they are good for is making a lot of power for not a lot of money. Plus, you won't see any modded cobras setting road coarse records. They only type of racing they are good for is drag racing. Not to mention that they are 99% similar inside and outside to a V6 stang.

 

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

In my experience, the 03 cobra was wayyyy more fun to drive, and at car shows and such, enthusiasts were very impressed by it.

With the c5, I get thumbs up from old guys, and gawkers at streetlights, but when it's said and done, people kinda look at it and walk around and then they're gone...

In other words, the 03 made for a much better conversation piece, and really blew people away...then I'd give them a ride and this was them in the passenger seat:

...haha

 

magazine racing or real world experience?

Also, the z06 is another story...I was talking about regular c5s.