What's more Dangerous?
Burning Brakes
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From: Middletown PA
Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
People on cell phones or idiots street racing?
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Originally Posted by MattB
I've heard rumors that a cell phone user is more prone to accidents than a drunk driver.
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Originally Posted by diyguy
Just to toss a fly in the ointment, how does one explain this in a lot of major cities?
How come Police Departments can drive fast, (not even code 3), look at and use the MDT (computer), talk on cell phone and 2 way radio all at the same time??
Wonder if they go through any specialized training to do all that?
You don't just see random 'intersection' crashes involving police cars every day......
How come Police Departments can drive fast, (not even code 3), look at and use the MDT (computer), talk on cell phone and 2 way radio all at the same time??
Wonder if they go through any specialized training to do all that?
You don't just see random 'intersection' crashes involving police cars every day......
if every car was also a police car you probably would
Burning Brakes
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From: Haymarket VA
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It's not just cell phones, although cell phone use is VERY prevalent. I've seen everything around here instead of people driving. Shaving, applying makeup, reading (maps, a newspaper, books), eating (not just McDs, cold cereal out of a bowl w milk and a spoon, no hands on the wheel), weight lifting (yup, what looked like 20 lbs of free weights doing curls), working on a computer, the list goes on. Yet we wonder why we can't get the speedlimits raised to a reasonable level. 
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yeah they are fc 
ing wa kers.
i had some clown not only PULL OUT into two lanes of traffic, but then diagonally stop, and wait for the oncoming two lanes ...to scoot across the road in dog-leg fashion from a carpark to a side street- nearly clipped me...
I had to follow him due to braking suddenly to avoid him, and turn down the same street, and it was then, i could see what happened: he had his detachable p nis on his ear and wasnt paying attention.. so i stayed with him till the next lights and called out to him 'what the hell!? -- > he's like "I was crossing the road, f ck off' and im like roaring at him
:"IF YOUR GONNA CALL , PULL OVER, you damn well gave me a heartattack let alone the accident you just narrowly avoided"
<< he was oblivious>>
2nd istance was on a freeway with a moron pulling hard right into the right most lane to manage the exit, only I was in the way! -forced me to brake and swerve off the shoulder and up the exit as well --
--YET AGAIN CELL FONE **** R....
your absolutley right, this kind of cr p is far more dangerous and ludicrous than those rare plonks that 'talk about streetracing'
i dont much care to wage the 'which sin is worse argument' but certainly of all the tw ts that complain about dr@g racing talk - if even half of them, asked themselves "DO I cause unsafe road conditions by talking while driving on a cell fone: and remove their 'anti-dr@g' comments by form of self-regulation"... Its my firm believe Corvette Forums Bandwidth costs would go down by half
the awswer sounds a bit 'street vendor-ish' but Police should fine drivers $500 OR buy a headset from them, on the spot at $100
(with profits to the local accident-victims trust)
ing wa kers.i had some clown not only PULL OUT into two lanes of traffic, but then diagonally stop, and wait for the oncoming two lanes ...to scoot across the road in dog-leg fashion from a carpark to a side street- nearly clipped me...
I had to follow him due to braking suddenly to avoid him, and turn down the same street, and it was then, i could see what happened: he had his detachable p
nis on his ear and wasnt paying attention.. so i stayed with him till the next lights and called out to him 'what the hell!? -- > he's like "I was crossing the road, f ck off' and im like roaring at him:"IF YOUR GONNA CALL , PULL OVER, you damn well gave me a heartattack let alone the accident you just narrowly avoided"
<< he was oblivious>>
2nd istance was on a freeway with a moron pulling hard right into the right most lane to manage the exit, only I was in the way! -forced me to brake and swerve off the shoulder and up the exit as well --
--YET AGAIN CELL FONE ****
R....your absolutley right, this kind of cr
p is far more dangerous and ludicrous than those rare plonks that 'talk about streetracing'i dont much care to wage the 'which sin is worse argument' but certainly of all the tw
ts that complain about dr@g racing talk - if even half of them, asked themselves "DO I cause unsafe road conditions by talking while driving on a cell fone: and remove their 'anti-dr@g' comments by form of self-regulation"... Its my firm believe Corvette Forums Bandwidth costs would go down by half the awswer sounds a bit 'street vendor-ish' but Police should fine drivers $500 OR buy a headset from them, on the spot at $100
(with profits to the local accident-victims trust)
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Originally Posted by AC54ME
You can bet he still uses his cell phone - it is an need in his business (real estate).
I guess I just don't get, like a previous poster said, how any call can be that important.
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Originally Posted by MattB
Not sure how well hands free will help, to me it seems the problem is concentrating on the phone call.
What I don't get is why jurisdictions don't just lump cell phone use, eating, drinking, applying make-up, yelling at the kids, and whatever other distraction you want to think up, into the "driving with undue care and attention" category and start ticketing the people who really cause the collisions (I refuse to call them "accidents"). Oh yeah, because it's easier to stand by the side of the road and enforce speed limits, 'cause we all know that "speed kills." Never mind the fact that when some a$$hole changes lanes without signaling I have no warning that I need to take evasive action.
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From: eastern NC
Originally Posted by MattB
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, wish the best of luck for you.
I agree that the cell phone user is a big problem. I've heard rumors that a cell phone user is more prone to accidents than a drunk driver. Not sure if its true, but sure seems like it.
Saw a recent mythbusters episode where they ran a driving course while talking on a cell phone. They were graded both on the phone and off the phone by an instructor. They did well when off the phone, but failed miserably when on the phone.
Not sure how well hands free will help, to me it seems the problem is concentrating on the phone call.
I agree that the cell phone user is a big problem. I've heard rumors that a cell phone user is more prone to accidents than a drunk driver.
Not sure if its true, but sure seems like it.Saw a recent mythbusters episode where they ran a driving course while talking on a cell phone. They were graded both on the phone and off the phone by an instructor. They did well when off the phone, but failed miserably when on the phone.
Not sure how well hands free will help, to me it seems the problem is concentrating on the phone call.
I wonder how long it will take the NHTSA to notice that one...
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From: Vancleave Ms.
One of my best friends bought a forrest green Mustang GT brand new back in 1992. It looked incredible..for a mustang. He didn't have it more than three months or so when some asswipe on a cell phone rear ended him at a stop light. It never looked the same again. I don't condone street racing even though I have participated in it, but DAYUM, people should have to pull off the road to use their cell phone. 
James
He didn't have it more than three months or so when some asswipe on a cell phone rear ended him at a stop light. It never looked the same again. I don't condone street racing even though I have participated in it, but DAYUM, people should have to pull off the road to use their cell phone. James
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From: PA
Idiots on Cell Phones!!!!
Idiots on cell phones **** me off. 
I think we're all guilty of picking up the phone now and then, BUT there's the ones who you pass every morning and they're on the phone every morning. 
Some ja*k*** almost took the whole rear end off my C5 two weeks ago talking on the phone...I went to turn into the office parking lot and he comes hauling @** behind me not paying attention, I start turning and my co-worker coming the other direction said all the sudden he darts out, barely misses me as he makes nasty faces and yelling AT ME and almost hits her yet. Had he been paying attention instead of yapping on that stupid phone, he would have safely slowed down and never came close to me or my co-worker.
I think we're all guilty of picking up the phone now and then, BUT there's the ones who you pass every morning and they're on the phone every morning. Some ja*k*** almost took the whole rear end off my C5 two weeks ago talking on the phone...I went to turn into the office parking lot and he comes hauling @** behind me not paying attention, I start turning and my co-worker coming the other direction said all the sudden he darts out, barely misses me as he makes nasty faces and yelling AT ME and almost hits her yet. Had he been paying attention instead of yapping on that stupid phone, he would have safely slowed down and never came close to me or my co-worker.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Craig Wagner
I've heard this argument before, but it doesn't make sense. People have been having conversations in their cars for as long as there have been cars. Why is it that a cell phone conversation (even a hands-free one) is any more dangerous than having a conversation with your passenger?
The reason being, when things get complicated (lane changes, evasive maneuvers, other idiots driving etc...) the passenger in the car Shuts UP (so do you) and lets you drive. Then when things calm down they'll resume talking. However when you're on a cell phone the person on the phone keeps talking and you keep listening... Thats what they said makes the biggest difference.
They also said, that in fact Passengers that DONT shut up or drivers that converse with passengers regardless of driving situations are JUST as dangerous as any cellphone... if not more so, because some IDIOTS make frequent EYE CONTACT
with their passengers!!!
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From: Vancleave Ms.
Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
The reason being, when things get complicated (lane changes, evasive maneuvers, other idiots driving etc...) the passenger in the car Shuts UP (so do you) and lets you drive. Then when things calm down they'll resume talking.
James
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Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
They also said, that in fact Passengers that DONT shut up or drivers that converse with passengers regardless of driving situations are JUST as dangerous as any cellphone... if not more so, because some IDIOTS make frequent EYE CONTACT with their passengers!!!
with their passengers!!!And yes, I have seen a huge number of people who feel they must look at their passenger whenever they speak to them. I just don't get it.