Xpipe Or Not??
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Xpipe Or Not??
Getting ready to install some BB bullets on my 01 Z06 with stock motor and wondering if i need the xpipe. I do have burble on deceleration right now but it doesnt bother me to much. What are the benefits of the xpipe? will it help with drone? some opinions would be great.
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I don't know about the drone, but it's supposed to reduce (not eliminate) popping on deacceleration. That's the only appreciable benefit I've heard with one. Heck, I like the popping... bring it on!
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Originally Posted by Postergeist
I don't know about the drone, but it's supposed to reduce (not eliminate) popping on deacceleration. That's the only appreciable benefit I've heard with one. Heck, I like the popping... bring it on!
Why have a performance exhaust, if you don't know it's
there.
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the xpipe serves a more usefully purpose than making sound.It is designed to balance the engine exhaust scavenging equally which helps pull exhaust gases from the engine more efficiently, and in doing this balances the idle and the acceleration smoothness.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
the xpipe serves a more usefully purpose than making sound.It is designed to balance the engine exhaust scavenging equally which helps pull exhaust gases from the engine more efficiently, and in doing this balances the idle and the acceleration smoothness.
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you will love it!
I don't know how anyone can say that the X "killed" the sound --- unless they really like the loud popping 
and snapping off throttle on most aftermarket systems. I really did not like that part of my Corsa Indy's.........that and getting rid of the "motorboat" uneven exhaust pulses was worth it to me..........
and snapping off throttle on most aftermarket systems. I really did not like that part of my Corsa Indy's.........that and getting rid of the "motorboat" uneven exhaust pulses was worth it to me..........
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Originally Posted by Pewter Dream
I don't know how anyone can say that the X "killed" the sound --- unless they really like the loud popping and snapping off throttle on most aftermarket systems. I really did not like that part of my Corsa Indy's.........that and getting rid of the "motorboat" uneven exhaust pulses was worth it to me..........
and snapping off throttle on most aftermarket systems. I really did not like that part of my Corsa Indy's.........that and getting rid of the "motorboat" uneven exhaust pulses was worth it to me..........My Buddy has a 2001 A4 coupe with just Stingers, mine is an 02 A4 with Stingers and X. Even he said my car sounds much better all around and pulls harder.
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to x or not to x
Originally Posted by DJN
My Buddy has a 2001 A4 coupe with just Stingers, mine is an 02 A4 with Stingers and X. Even he said my car sounds much better all around and pulls harder.
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The h pipe is not about sound..............its about idle and smoothness
the x pipe is not about sound................
the xpipe does a better job of allowing the car to run better,,,Idle better and produce better performance.... sound changes are a by product of the whole concept........
Trying to teach automotive technology here is like trying to teach sheep... they all follow the herd, even if the leader is the wolf....
when you think x pipe, you have to think along the same lines as long tube headers vers stock exhaust manifolds... long tubes are tuned to suck the exhaust gases out quickly and effeciently thus causing less crank resisitence.. the xpipe does a similar thing allowing those pulled gasses to exit quickly and evenly through balance after the exhaust manifold...
The same mentality is here in cam selection.. people ask which cam has the coolest sound, the loppiest or the bad assed sound... people care more about how it sounds than how it performs...
bunch a freekin weenies
the x pipe is not about sound................
the xpipe does a better job of allowing the car to run better,,,Idle better and produce better performance.... sound changes are a by product of the whole concept........
Trying to teach automotive technology here is like trying to teach sheep... they all follow the herd, even if the leader is the wolf....
when you think x pipe, you have to think along the same lines as long tube headers vers stock exhaust manifolds... long tubes are tuned to suck the exhaust gases out quickly and effeciently thus causing less crank resisitence.. the xpipe does a similar thing allowing those pulled gasses to exit quickly and evenly through balance after the exhaust manifold...
The same mentality is here in cam selection.. people ask which cam has the coolest sound, the loppiest or the bad assed sound... people care more about how it sounds than how it performs...
bunch a freekin weenies
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
...people care more about how it sounds than how it performs...
bunch a freekin weenies
bunch a freekin weenies
And a response in 10...9...8....
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Originally Posted by jedicowboy
So by that token aftermarket wheels, upgraded seat covers, cat-back exhaust systems, etc are a waste? That stuff really only looks or sounds better for the most part. Seat covers don't give better performance. Cat-back exhaust systems don't yeild better performance. I know that these companies claim 10hp. That's bunk though. Most aftermarket wheels are heavier than stock. Are you a weenie? Just by looking at your corvette photos you have all of the above and then some.
And a response in 10...9...8....
And a response in 10...9...8....
nothing wrong with appearance mods.....
a cam is not a sound device, its a performance device...
an x pipe is a performance device......
when people ask if they need an X pipe, the answer is yes.
while a cam can perform some wonders, a low LSA will produce a loss of manifold vacuum, be a bit harder to idle and tune out,,, but the "Sound will be cool"
BTW I also have some extensive mods to my engine... and they are there for the reason they were designed...
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeeeeener
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
You aint sucking me in.....
nothing wrong with appearance mods.....
a cam is not a sound device, its a performance device...
an x pipe is a performance device......
when people ask if they need an X pipe, the answer is yes.
while a cam can perform some wonders, a low LSA will produce a loss of manifold vacuum, be a bit harder to idle and tune out,,, but the "Sound will be cool"
BTW I also have some extensive mods to my engine... and they are there for the reason they were designed...
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeeeeener
nothing wrong with appearance mods.....
a cam is not a sound device, its a performance device...
an x pipe is a performance device......
when people ask if they need an X pipe, the answer is yes.
while a cam can perform some wonders, a low LSA will produce a loss of manifold vacuum, be a bit harder to idle and tune out,,, but the "Sound will be cool"
BTW I also have some extensive mods to my engine... and they are there for the reason they were designed...
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeeeeener
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What I don't like is the almost metallic rattling/vibration sound I get at certain rpm. I can only hear it when cruising through my parking deck. I had a similar sound on my '98 SS with a cutout until I added FLP LT and Y-pipe.
I wonder if an X-pipe on the Vette would remove this metallic sound?
I wonder if an X-pipe on the Vette would remove this metallic sound?
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeeeeener
I have the right to laugh. I have been on the bad end of ET's rants before
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:ROFL: I have the right to laugh. I have been on the bad end of ET's rants before
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Originally Posted by jedicowboy
So by that token aftermarket wheels, upgraded seat covers, cat-back exhaust systems, etc are a waste? That stuff really only looks or sounds better for the most part. Seat covers don't give better performance. Cat-back exhaust systems don't yeild better performance. I know that these companies claim 10hp. That's bunk though. Most aftermarket wheels are heavier than stock. Are you a weenie? Just by looking at your corvette photos you have all of the above and then some.
And a response in 10...9...8....
And a response in 10...9...8....
Are you seriously trying to say that a less restrictive exhaust system yeilds no benefit to an LS1 engine?
WRONG.
As to the original posters question. ET is correct. Yes you should use an x pipe with your setup.
He may be ornary, and snide at times, but he knows what the hell he's talkin about.
In fact I'd go so far as to say that not many here know as much about the C5 as he.
When the chips are down, Ive seen many go to the go to guy for advice. Not one single time in over 2 years have I seen him give bad advice and/or information.
Dead on the money each and every time.
Last edited by I X L R 8; Apr 11, 2006 at 07:01 PM.