Need All Opinions !!!!
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Burning Brakes
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Need All Opinions !!!!
i have a 1999 FRC, Fixed Roof Coupe, 6 speed manual, my steering column lock..locked up on me on my on april 11, 2006..... on April 19, 2006, the dealership .. performed the recall (4006D).
I thought all was well until .. this tuesday day may 2, 2006, when after work, the DIC read "pull key wait 10 seconds !!!!! " Dredd words. Then .. it read service column lock. !!!!! i was stuck and had to have the car towed yet again.
Now i was able to turn the wheel but the car shut itself off.
My question is the dealer is saying the problem lies with some part called the (actuator), which is in the steering column.... and not the steer column lock ??? They want $475.00 to fix it/ and put in a new Actuator.. Does this sound right or even make sense ??? Secondly has this happened to anyone else ???
Lastly if i put in the column lock bypass the $50.00 unit, would that then negate the use of the actuator entirely, and thus saving me alot of money ????
PS. Thanks for all your help, and all input is welcome !!
I thought all was well until .. this tuesday day may 2, 2006, when after work, the DIC read "pull key wait 10 seconds !!!!! " Dredd words. Then .. it read service column lock. !!!!! i was stuck and had to have the car towed yet again.
Now i was able to turn the wheel but the car shut itself off.
My question is the dealer is saying the problem lies with some part called the (actuator), which is in the steering column.... and not the steer column lock ??? They want $475.00 to fix it/ and put in a new Actuator.. Does this sound right or even make sense ??? Secondly has this happened to anyone else ???
Lastly if i put in the column lock bypass the $50.00 unit, would that then negate the use of the actuator entirely, and thus saving me alot of money ????
PS. Thanks for all your help, and all input is welcome !!
Melting Slicks
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From: Leon Iowa
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Originally Posted by Cali17
i have a 1999 FRC, Fixed Roof Coupe, 6 speed manual, my steering column lock..locked up on me on my on april 11, 2006..... on April 19, 2006, the dealership .. performed the recall (4006D).
I thought all was well until .. this tuesday day may 2, 2006, when after work, the DIC read "pull key wait 10 seconds !!!!! " Dredd words. Then .. it read service column lock. !!!!! i was stuck and had to have the car towed yet again.
Now i was able to turn the wheel but the car shut itself off.
My question is the dealer is saying the problem lies with some part called the (actuator), which is in the steering column.... and not the steer column lock ??? They want $475.00 to fix it/ and put in a new Actuator.. Does this sound right or even make sense ??? Secondly has this happened to anyone else ???
Lastly if i put in the column lock bypass the $50.00 unit, would that then negate the use of the actuator entirely, and thus saving me alot of money ????
PS. Thanks for all your help, and all input is welcome !!
I thought all was well until .. this tuesday day may 2, 2006, when after work, the DIC read "pull key wait 10 seconds !!!!! " Dredd words. Then .. it read service column lock. !!!!! i was stuck and had to have the car towed yet again.
Now i was able to turn the wheel but the car shut itself off.
My question is the dealer is saying the problem lies with some part called the (actuator), which is in the steering column.... and not the steer column lock ??? They want $475.00 to fix it/ and put in a new Actuator.. Does this sound right or even make sense ??? Secondly has this happened to anyone else ???
Lastly if i put in the column lock bypass the $50.00 unit, would that then negate the use of the actuator entirely, and thus saving me alot of money ????
PS. Thanks for all your help, and all input is welcome !!
Instructor
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same thing happened to mine. the dealer took out the locking function. i had it back from the dealer for about a week and it did the remove key thing. i just turned off the car took out the key restarted it and it was fine. has not done it since.
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Burning Brakes
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ok . so just to confirm if.. when my column lock by pass comes in .... and i install it .. i DO NOT have to pay the $475.00 for a new (actuator)..........
i am getting my stomach back a little now ....
i am getting my stomach back a little now ....
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Get the CLB - it should solve your problems.
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Burning Brakes
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thanks for all your help
and of course more opinions are welcome here !!!!
should GM pay for any of this ???
ie towing it to the dealer .. renting a brand new 2006 toyota corolla with 20 miles on it ! ... .etc ..
thanks for all your help
and of course more opinions are welcome here !!!!
should GM pay for any of this ???
ie towing it to the dealer .. renting a brand new 2006 toyota corolla with 20 miles on it ! ... .etc ..
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sorry to hear of your trouble
1- GM should pay for this because they should warranty their work at least 1 year, and especially since this is a recall
lastly- unfortunatley since your column is already locked, the CLB will not work until your column is unlocked again... and if the dealer does the most recent recall correclty on your six speed, they should be removing the locking plate all together and getting rid of the programming that shuts your fuel off.
good luck
1- GM should pay for this because they should warranty their work at least 1 year, and especially since this is a recall
lastly- unfortunatley since your column is already locked, the CLB will not work until your column is unlocked again... and if the dealer does the most recent recall correclty on your six speed, they should be removing the locking plate all together and getting rid of the programming that shuts your fuel off.
good luck
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Originally Posted by FrankTank
sorry to hear of your trouble
1- GM should pay for this because they should warranty their work at least 1 year, and especially since this is a recall
lastly- unfortunatley since your column is already locked, the CLB will not work until your column is unlocked again... and if the dealer does the most recent recall correclty on your six speed, they should be removing the locking plate all together and getting rid of the programming that shuts your fuel off.
good luck
1- GM should pay for this because they should warranty their work at least 1 year, and especially since this is a recall
lastly- unfortunatley since your column is already locked, the CLB will not work until your column is unlocked again... and if the dealer does the most recent recall correclty on your six speed, they should be removing the locking plate all together and getting rid of the programming that shuts your fuel off.
good luck
Make sure they performed the correct recall. Sounds like they did the old one on your car. Tell them to take their $475 actuator and jam it. Get the CLB, install it in under an hour and you'll be good to go!
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Burning Brakes
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bueatiful ...
many thanks to all .. and if anyone else has any more input that is welcome too !!!
they told me the preformed the recall bulletin 4006D the newest one .. i am assuming there have been A-D.
oh and my steering column does work does work, but the engine shuts it self off.
so i shall put in th CLB...
many thanks to all .. and if anyone else has any more input that is welcome too !!!
they told me the preformed the recall bulletin 4006D the newest one .. i am assuming there have been A-D.
oh and my steering column does work does work, but the engine shuts it self off.
so i shall put in th CLB...
Last edited by Cali17; May 4, 2006 at 02:36 PM.
Melting Slicks
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Same thing happened to me. The GM Tech Center told the dealership to pull out the relay installed with the recall, then replace the actuator with a late 2004 actuator, which was done at NO CHARGE, per GM.
Your dealership needs to call the GM Tech Center, as GM had already done hundreds of the actuators when mine was done.
Your dealership needs to call the GM Tech Center, as GM had already done hundreds of the actuators when mine was done.
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Burning Brakes
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wow .. they made it sound like the actuator . or whatever was a separate entity from the steering column .................
Therefore GM should, if need be fix the actuator, per recall, no charge.
let me know if i am mistaken.
thanks agains.
Therefore GM should, if need be fix the actuator, per recall, no charge.
let me know if i am mistaken.
thanks agains.
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Cali17
wow .. they made it sound like the actuator . or whatever was a separate entity from the steering column .................
Therefore GM should, if need be fix the actuator, per recall, no charge.
let me know if i am mistaken.
thanks agains.
Therefore GM should, if need be fix the actuator, per recall, no charge.
let me know if i am mistaken.
thanks agains.
So, it is an integral part of the column lock system, and is yet ANOTHER part that can fail in the system. The dealership should know that and you should NOT be charged.
The person at the dealership I went to is a member here, RichieRichZ06, and posted publicly that he would assist others on this issue, even if they are not in his immediate geographical area. Your dealership can probably contact him, if necessary. He's at Woodard Chevrolet in Fairfield.
Send him a PM. He is a great guy.
FWIW, he also sells GM Parts at a discount if you need any.
Last edited by MrLeadFoot; May 4, 2006 at 04:54 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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THANK YOU SOO MUCH THIS HELPS TREMENDOUSLY .
I just pm him .. hopefully i shall hear from him soon.
THanks again !
I just pm him .. hopefully i shall hear from him soon.
THanks again !
Last edited by Cali17; May 4, 2006 at 07:23 PM.
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wo I just sent my car to the dealership this morning for exact same problem.They act like they have never heard of this problem before. Service person said he had to have a tech see it and then tell me what and how much it would be to fix.He promised same day I called him at 4pm and he said he didnt get to it I hope it will be done by tommorow .Hope they do a free fix because when I called they said recall had already been done but they didnt mention which recall was done on it.I hope they dont give me no 
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Burning Brakes
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wow,
this is such a pain .... GM is like . yeah lets take all the vette owners for a ride.
This should not be happening... how could techs and superviors be soo blantanly out of the lope with problems effecting theirs cars !! ..
something should be done !!
i am thinking PRODUCT LIABILITY .. we should all get in on a huge class action lawsuit !!!
this is such a pain .... GM is like . yeah lets take all the vette owners for a ride.
This should not be happening... how could techs and superviors be soo blantanly out of the lope with problems effecting theirs cars !! ..
something should be done !!
i am thinking PRODUCT LIABILITY .. we should all get in on a huge class action lawsuit !!!
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Taking your car to the dealer for this is mistake #1
Allowing them to reflash your PMC to turn off the fuel is mistake #2
A column lock bypass for 50 dollars fixes all of this, but for those with a reflashed PCM, your troubles may never be over.
Allowing them to reflash your PMC to turn off the fuel is mistake #2
A column lock bypass for 50 dollars fixes all of this, but for those with a reflashed PCM, your troubles may never be over.
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Just got call back from dealer said bcm is not working in sync with my power mirror and my colum lock..I am like WTF.Said it would be a $600 -$1500 to fix.Dealer said it has nothing to do with the recall.Damn I am pissed.I am going to go tow my car back to my shop right now get the CLB and be on my way.Sad when the public knows how to fix this easier than GM techs..I only whish I had read this forum 3 days ago.