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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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On an LS6 motor or any motor for that matter, with slightly longer pushrods and stiffer rocker arms, don't you increase lift and improve high end performance? Wouldn't that give you the same results as a bigger cam without out the duration and lobe separation changing? Kind of like a poor mans cam job?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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I think there is also a chance of you making the valves bang into the pistons as well. Not sure though but you might wanna check that.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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I'm talking about thousands of an inch, not like an inch. Even a bigger cam would get you closer to the pistons, so I don't think you could go too much longer than the stock rods. Maybe .030 of an inch
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Old May 11, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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In theory; you are correct. But, doing that screws up the geometry of the vavlvetrain and causes things to break.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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It will change the geometry and cause the rocker to improperly wipe across the valve.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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I assume that you also mean to change the rocker arm ratio. It puts a lot more stress on the rocker arm.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Your logic has the valve open more, but when does it get to close?

You can get more lift by either changing the ratio or getting a cam.

Putting longer pushrods in it does nothing.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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I have to agree, longer push rods will just leave the valve open that extra length decreasing CR. It would be a wate of time and money. If you want to increase lift easily without going into the motor then go with 1.75-1.8 ratio rockers, Otherwise your looking at a new cam.
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a longer pushrod does nothing to open the valve more. The pushrod serves only as an extension of the lifter. The lifter (solid lifter so as not to complicate the issue) simply is a follower of the cam and transfers the lift of the cam to the rocker arm through the lifter. The rocker arm can and often does multiply the lift by offsetting the pivot point. This creates a seesaw effect. So as you can see making the pushrod longer will do nothing but perhaps screw up rocker arm geometry.
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A larger rocker arm or cam will give you the results you are looking for unfortunately the longer pushrod will not, if you do swap your rockers or cam make sure you replace the springs with something up to the task.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Bind rate of the stock 02-04 LS6 spring is .570, Lift is .550 for the stock cam. A rocker arm ratio of 1.8 will increase lift about .025 creating a lift of .575, you will have to replace the stock springs. Also, if you're planning on taking lift above .600 you may want to consider fly cutting your pistons for clearence.
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