[Z06] What am I doing wrong?
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From: Boston MA
Re: What am I doing wrong? (RandyM3)
Randy,
Wow. We have a "youngster" here asking advice, and the most mature response you can muster is to insult his parents. What gives with that? :nono:
You know, "kids" not much older that Bernard are flying $50 million fighter aircraft. The Z06 is just a little sports car for goodness sakes. :jester But seriously, I think it is a little unfair to judge either him or his parents. Unless you know them personally, you are way out of line.
I don't know either of you, but if I were forced to chose one of you ro drive my car, I wouldn't think twice before throwing Bernard the keys. At least behind the keyboard, he is demonstrating a lot more maturity than you.
Anyway, Bernard. Good luck with your car and do be careful. You'll get the hang of it. Make sure you remember you are driving a car that has a performance potential that is way above your current skills. It wouldn't be hard for you to get in over your head real fast. If you have any urgings at all to drive fast, please take people's advice and find the correct format (driving and racing schools) to do it.
Wow. We have a "youngster" here asking advice, and the most mature response you can muster is to insult his parents. What gives with that? :nono:
You know, "kids" not much older that Bernard are flying $50 million fighter aircraft. The Z06 is just a little sports car for goodness sakes. :jester But seriously, I think it is a little unfair to judge either him or his parents. Unless you know them personally, you are way out of line.
I don't know either of you, but if I were forced to chose one of you ro drive my car, I wouldn't think twice before throwing Bernard the keys. At least behind the keyboard, he is demonstrating a lot more maturity than you.
Anyway, Bernard. Good luck with your car and do be careful. You'll get the hang of it. Make sure you remember you are driving a car that has a performance potential that is way above your current skills. It wouldn't be hard for you to get in over your head real fast. If you have any urgings at all to drive fast, please take people's advice and find the correct format (driving and racing schools) to do it.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
Sorry...I guess I just assumed that someone wouldn't be stupid enough to buy a car like that to learn how to drive a stick in. Kinda like buying a new Hyabusa to learn how to ride a motorcycle. There are just things you learn to do gradually...the smart way.
And no getinofficer, there's no jealousy here...a Z06 may be a well performing car, but I'd never own one...and yes, I can afford one, before you even ask.
And no getinofficer, there's no jealousy here...a Z06 may be a well performing car, but I'd never own one...and yes, I can afford one, before you even ask.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (RandyM3)
I actually have learned stick before, taking a driving class. I know the basics of switching but just need more practice to know the right combination of gas and clutch release.
Right now I practice around my block, havent gone out to the freeway or more than 500 feet away from my house. Until I get it right, I will be practicing in a small area.
Right now I practice around my block, havent gone out to the freeway or more than 500 feet away from my house. Until I get it right, I will be practicing in a small area.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (RandyM3)
If you don't own a Z06 and you don't intend to own a Z06 then why are you even posting on this board? Personally it doesn't matter but seeing as your throwing insults around I just have to ask.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
I was driving motorcross bikes before I learned to drive a stick shift. I remember one of the tough things about learning to use my foot for the clutch was that there was less feedback.
Once the clutch starts to catch, you don't have to just keep letting it out. You can let it out slower, hold it steady, or even push it back in a little if your made the mistake of starting to let it out to quickly. Once you start letting the clutch out, try not to feel "committed" to continuing to let it out. Try pushing it back in a little, letting it out a little, and getting a general feeling for where it grabs. All it should take is some more practice.
Once the clutch starts to catch, you don't have to just keep letting it out. You can let it out slower, hold it steady, or even push it back in a little if your made the mistake of starting to let it out to quickly. Once you start letting the clutch out, try not to feel "committed" to continuing to let it out. Try pushing it back in a little, letting it out a little, and getting a general feeling for where it grabs. All it should take is some more practice.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Roy Romano)
Thanks for everyone's advice. I will take it into consideration when I am driving. I am doing much better now on starting the car. Just have to gas it a little bit more and not pull the clutch out too fast. :D
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
I can show you how to drive with the clutch. The basic that is. I had my 1986
Mustang for about 14yrs with about 180,000 miles on the original clutch.
I live in Cupertino and Yes I was up and down all those San Francisco Hills
over and over again.
I am still going to order my Z06 EB I take a class on racing skills.
A small story: When I was about 20yrs old I purchased my first manual. It was a Plymouth arrow pickup with a 5 speed. I help my friends take there band
equipment to a party in Berkley. The house was on a hill and I did not know how to deal with the clutch on a steep hill. I friend helped me out of the parking mess I was in; on that steep hill. After that night I really practiced the
balance between more gas and letting out the clutch. I find it is more a function of gas / acceleration than the speed at which the clutch is released. That why you do not roll backwards (most of the time)
I can be reached at rjacobs@vishay.com
Robert J. :chevy
Mustang for about 14yrs with about 180,000 miles on the original clutch.
I live in Cupertino and Yes I was up and down all those San Francisco Hills
over and over again.
I am still going to order my Z06 EB I take a class on racing skills.
A small story: When I was about 20yrs old I purchased my first manual. It was a Plymouth arrow pickup with a 5 speed. I help my friends take there band
equipment to a party in Berkley. The house was on a hill and I did not know how to deal with the clutch on a steep hill. I friend helped me out of the parking mess I was in; on that steep hill. After that night I really practiced the
balance between more gas and letting out the clutch. I find it is more a function of gas / acceleration than the speed at which the clutch is released. That why you do not roll backwards (most of the time)
I can be reached at rjacobs@vishay.com
Robert J. :chevy
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (pat97formula)
Just practice driving in the middle of nowhere where you can stall it and not get rearended by some idiot in an 87 corolla (apologies to the FX16 crowd). Find someone that has been driving a stick for a long time and hasn't had to have their clutch replaced recently, as they are probably doing something right. The lower the rpms during the clutch engages, the less slippage there will be and hence you'll get a longer clutch life.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
It sounds like your takeing your time to learn with IMHO is the right way. I got a new 327-365 vette in 64 at 18(my first high performance stick) just went at my own pace and learned what the car and I could do safely and it whent fine.Enjoy your car and pay NO mind to the troll. Ric
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
First of all - congrats on having the guts to ask and the nuts to buy a ballsy car. That's your first hurdle.
Secondly, join a performance driving club for track training. They will teach you how to shift properly - heel and toe and how to handle the power of a performance car with respect. All of us want to see your posts up to 10,000 posts, so play it smart and play it safe - you are driving a missile.
Third, practice slipping the clutch with a professional driver who can show you how to manage your car on all of those hills in San Francisco. Initially it will be a challenge. You will get so good at it that you will be able to hold a car gently on any incline. Sure you're gonna stall it many times. That's how you learn.
Finally, enjoy the car and the experience. Have Fun ! :chevy
Secondly, join a performance driving club for track training. They will teach you how to shift properly - heel and toe and how to handle the power of a performance car with respect. All of us want to see your posts up to 10,000 posts, so play it smart and play it safe - you are driving a missile.
Third, practice slipping the clutch with a professional driver who can show you how to manage your car on all of those hills in San Francisco. Initially it will be a challenge. You will get so good at it that you will be able to hold a car gently on any incline. Sure you're gonna stall it many times. That's how you learn.
Finally, enjoy the car and the experience. Have Fun ! :chevy
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From: Hoffman Estates IL
Re: What am I doing wrong? (Keystone)
[QUOTE]When in doubt, light'em up. It's better to do a burn out than to stall it or roll back into another car.
That's the best advice I've heard yet! :lol: Seriously, I feel your pain and frustration. This is also my first manual. Every time I drive the car I learn something new, or is some cases I learn what NOT to do. ;)
That's the best advice I've heard yet! :lol: Seriously, I feel your pain and frustration. This is also my first manual. Every time I drive the car I learn something new, or is some cases I learn what NOT to do. ;)
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (ZO6SPEED)
Just wondering, how many people use e-brake when they are starting on an uphill? Is that the easiest way to start if I am uphill?
Bernard Sze
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Re: What am I doing wrong? (Azn01Penny)
Just wondering, how many people use e-brake when they are starting on an uphill? Is that the easiest way to start if I am uphill?
Bernard Sze
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