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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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I just recently bought a 99 Hardtop car. The car is Alpine White and i know GM only made 311 Alpine Hardtops in 99. I was curious if you could find out what number car i have. Ive tried the dealer to get a history report and that shows you only options. Appreciate any help.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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In the order of the 311? That might be hard to find.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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I just recently bought a 99 Hardtop car. The car is Alpine White and i know GM only made 311 Alpine Hardtops in 99. I was curious if you could find out what number car i have. Ive tried the dealer to get a history report and that shows you only options. Appreciate any help.
First, get the color right. It's Arctic White (or "Artic White") on the window sticker.
Post up your complete VIN. There several folks here who can get the info for you very easily.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
First, get the color right. It's Arctic White (or "Artic White") on the window sticker.
Post up your complete VIN. There several folks here who can get the info for you very easily.
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yeah pretty bad i dont even know the color of my own car!!! Your right its Arctic White. My VIN is 1G1YY12G9X5123622. Also ive read that on the production decal on the inside part of the glovebox will tell you if the car might have been a prototype, test, or pilot vehicle. The codes are RPOWD0, WD1, and WD2. I do not see any of these codes on my production decal. I assume the car was none of these in this case???? Anyway just trying to find out some background info. Thanks for the help.
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Congrats on your rare ride, enjoy.. My option codes are not in my glovebox but on the bottom of my right rear storage cover??? Anybody else's there???
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Total production of 4,031 hardtops made in 99. Sixth digit is a 1 for hardtop,2 for coupe, 3 for vert. 8th digit is for engine code G is 346ci, 345hp (LS1)
9th digit engine code and it varies. Ending VIN did not match production quanity because production quanity counted pilots and prototypes.
99 was the first year for the hardtop, the lowest priced model with limited colors and options.
If you want more info let me know
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Congrats on your rare ride, enjoy.. My option codes are not in my glovebox but on the bottom of my right rear storage cover??? Anybody else's there???
thanks for the help guys. I know all the info about colors and options etc. Im really looking to find out if i can get an exact number of production for my car. When you say under the right rear storage cover do you mean actually under the car or inside on the bottom of the cover?
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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In the order of the 311? That might be hard to find.
However, it's an interesting question! Hope you find what you are looking for!
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99 Arctic White FRC

Just bought it yesterday!

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Great fun!

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Congrats to both of you! I have had my 99 FRC for about 2 months now and honestly, its been not only my favorite vette, but my favorite car. here is a link that may help with option breakdowns.

http://www.idavette.net/facts/p99.htm

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 99HARDTOP99
…(snip)…My VIN is 1G1YY12G9X5123622. Also ive read that on the production decal on the inside part of the glovebox will tell you if the car might have been a prototype, test, or pilot vehicle. The codes are RPOWD0, WD1, and WD2. I do not see any of these codes on my production decal. I assume the car was none of these in this case…
According to the following, VIN# 100056 was the last of the 1999 model year test/pilot/prototype vehicles, so your car would not have been one of these:

Special RPO Codes

Originally Posted by 99HARDTOP99
…(snip)…thanks for the help guys. I know all the info about colors and options etc. Im really looking to find out if i can get an exact number of production for my car…
Without access to GM's database, there really is no way to come up with the production order information that you are seeking. Also, a lot would depend on your definition of "exact". Keep in mind that modern day production control techniques are quite different than they were back in the days of the old St. Louis plant. By the sheer definition of test/pilot/prototype vehicles and if information at the above link is correct, some 56 model year 1999 vehicles to include some 27 FRCs would have been built during one of the previous model year (1997 or 1998) production runs. And, the first 1999 vehicle to come off the 1999 model year production line would have been VIN# 100057. GM assigns a Job Number (or Sequence Number as it is shown on the car's build sheet) to each job and it is this Job Number that they use to marry up the correct parts to each vehicle on the assembly line. Too, it is the Job Number that allows them to run future year test/pilot/prototype vehicles on the same production line along with the current model year production vehicles. The Job Number starts over with #000001 at the beginning of each model year production run. So, in the case of VIN# 100057 being the first 1999 vehicle or job to be produced on the 1999 model year production line, it also would have been assigned Job Number 000001. Also, as I've read, often was the case that one could see end of model year "build-out" vehicles running on the assembly line with the next model year production vehicles. I've also read where this happened with the 2005 C6 and the model year 2004 C5 "build-out" cars as well at the end of the 2004 model year.

As you can see, production sequencing is quite more involved than it might first appear. The VIN is not much more help either. Should you care to, you can read more on this in my replies to the following post:

Off the line in '97 whats the number?

HTH and congrats on the FRC!

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 99HARDTOP99
thanks for the help guys. I know all the info about colors and options etc. Im really looking to find out if i can get an exact number of production for my car. When you say under the right rear storage cover do you mean actually under the car or inside on the bottom of the cover?
Your '99 FRC's option sticker should be inside the glovebox door. That's where mine is located.The build sequence number is on the underside of the rear center compartment hatch cover. (Of course FRC's don't have side compartment covers)
I don't recall the gentleman's name right now but he is a forum member and can give you the exact build date as well as if it's an A.M./P.M. car from your VIN.
BTW, Of course the month/year of production is on one of your two driver's side door stickers. You might try a search. If I can come up with more info I'll let you know.

Just did some checking and the info I got shows your VIN (with last 6 digits of 123622) was built on Tuesday, March 16th, 1999 and just by doing some quickie math should have a job sequence number of 23588. There were only five more cars built that day so yours would have been built late in the production day.
HTH,
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Good work Robert.

Could you tell me where you found this info?

Thanks
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Good work Robert.

Could you tell me where you found this info?

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i got me a 99 Arctic White FRC
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Sorry but I can't find anything about the "number" your car is. I have access to a GM Database program and they do not mention anything about it in there. Just an order code and build date and some other stuff. Sorry! I wish I could have helped better!
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
…(snip)…Just did some checking and the info I got shows your VIN (with last 6 digits of 123622) was built on Tuesday, March 16th, 1999 and just by doing some quickie math should have a job sequence number of 23588. There were only five more cars built that day so yours would have been built late in the production day.
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One needs to be careful when interpreting the data at the C5 Registry web site. Note the caveat toward the top left of the page that reads "Numbers Reflect Start Of Production Day". The Bowling Green Assembly Pant once posted (but no longer does) the original of this information at their web site, http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/. The Assembly Plant web site used the following caveat when they first posted this information: "Vehicle Identification Numbers are taken at the start of General Assembly Trim Department." The information that you're looking at really only gives you an indication of the VINs that started through the Trim Department that day, NOT the ones that actually came off the assembly line or had that day as their build date. Keep in mind that at the start of any production day, there are cars left unfinished from the previous work day that must be completed before the cars started this work day can be completed and move off the production line. And, most cars that started through the Trim Department on any particular day would not have been completed that same day.

Many people will find their car's actual (official) build date to be the next production day following the date shown at these web sites. When weekends and holidays are involved, the next production day may be several days later. Too, I've seen some vehicles with build dates that are several weeks after the date shown there, especially those that were started just prior to the plant closing for vacation breaks and the like.

We took Museum delivery on our car in April 2003 and followed this information very closely as the Assembly Plant posted it to their web site. Our own car as shown at these web sites was the tenth job that started through the Trim Department on April 24, 2003. It was then completed on the next day with an actual build date of April 25, 2003.

The information that you are looking at for 99HARDTOP99's car only shows that his was one of the last cars that would have started through the Trim Department on Tuesday, March 16th, 1999. Therefore his car would not have been completed until Wednesday the 17th or possibly even later.

I know there may be other ways, but the one that I'm most aware of for those here to find the actual (official) build date for their car is from the GM Vehicle Inquiry System (VIS). GM dealers and some of the members here on this Forum have access to GM VIS. The information Sponge Vette so graciously provides is from the GM VIS. In one of his posts, Sponge Vette said that the build date or born date that he was able to post was the day that the vehicle is fired up and driven off the line for the first time.

Just for the record and not to start a debate, but I know some people consider their "born on" date to be the day their car first started down the assembly line. However, most all that do will find their "born on" date and their cars actual (official) build date found in GM's system to be two different dates.

Incidentally, you are not the first one here to get caught up in and misinterpret the data at these web sites. Hope this helps to set the record straight.

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Originally Posted by 99HARDTOP99
thanks for the help guys. I know all the info about colors and options etc. Im really looking to find out if i can get an exact number of production for my car. When you say under the right rear storage cover do you mean actually under the car or inside on the bottom of the cover?
To my knowledge FRC did not have right or left rear storage covers. They do however have a center rear storage cover. Cajun will chime in if I'm wrong!
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