First ticket in the vette.
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From: Central CA
Originally Posted by Suprfun
I've had a similar experience although I wasn't in the vette. Hadn't had a ticket in quite a number of years and then was going an actual 35 in a 25 (had the cruise set). I thought the area was a 35 mph zone, my bad. When the officer stopped me I related to him that I hadn't had a ticket in years and had a clean driving record and I hoped he would take that into consideration. He came back with a ticket and when I politely thanked him for taking my driving record into consideration before writing the ticket he stated that he did. When I asked him to explain he said he had clocked me at 40 in a 25 and reduced it to 35 in a 25. That was the first time I ever had a police officer flat out lie to me as I had the cruise set at 35 and have a HUD in the GTP which I immediately looked at when I saw his cruiser with the radar. So it sure seems that a good driving record got me nowhere with him. Thank GOD my insurance company isn't out to rip me as they stated that they wouldn't raise my rates based on my good driving record for just one ticket. So even when you run into a "by the book johnny law" who's having a bad day maybe your insurance company will give you a break based on the fact that you're a good driver with clean record.
One last thing before all the "you deserved the ticket you were going 35 in a 25" group chime in your right I was and I paid the ticket. $95 and two points. What bothered me was the fact that the officer lied about my speed (said I was going 40 in a 25 which I wasn't) and "could" have given me a warning based on my good record, he didn't. My insurance company thankfully did however. We all make mistakes and when you do "most" police officers will consider your past performance before issuing your a citation for such a small infraction and if he doesn’t hopefully your insurance company will.
Rant mode is now off!
Have a nice day everyone and don't speed!
One last thing before all the "you deserved the ticket you were going 35 in a 25" group chime in your right I was and I paid the ticket. $95 and two points. What bothered me was the fact that the officer lied about my speed (said I was going 40 in a 25 which I wasn't) and "could" have given me a warning based on my good record, he didn't. My insurance company thankfully did however. We all make mistakes and when you do "most" police officers will consider your past performance before issuing your a citation for such a small infraction and if he doesn’t hopefully your insurance company will.
Rant mode is now off!
Have a nice day everyone and don't speed!
"Yes officer, I was beating my wife, but I havn't done it in SUUUUUCH a long time... cant you take that into consideration!?!
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
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Originally Posted by sandmanusd
"Yes officer, I was beating my wife, but I havn't done it in SUUUUUCH a long time... cant you take that into consideration!?!
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
Not exactly a valid comparison
Fact is most officers do seem to cut you a little slack with a squeaky clean record, at least that's been my experience.
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From: Central CA
Originally Posted by floridarob
Not exactly a valid comparison
Fact is most officers do seem to cut you a little slack with a squeaky clean record, at least that's been my experience.
Fact is most officers do seem to cut you a little slack with a squeaky clean record, at least that's been my experience.
Its the nature of the job... the VAST majority of people that police officers have to deal with on a daily basis are lying about something, if not everything about them... So if a cop belives what you say on the first go around, that cop is either a newbie rookie, or just plain ignorant... its the nature of the job... those that don't think its true, just ask a relative or friend that is a cop... he'll tell you...
everything that people say to cops during a day is assumed to be a lie, a stretch of the truth, an exageration, or a "buttering up" of the truth. and you have to prove otherwise... its a defense mechanism...
otherwise crooks and bad guys would walk all over cops... why WOULDN"T bad guys lie... if they tell the truth, they go to jail, if they lie, they have a CHANCE of not going to jail...
so don't get mad if you get pulled over or you call the cops and the cop doesn't seem like he believes you or believes every little thing your saying... thats his job NOT to... its called investigation... if he believes everything everyone says, hes not doing his job.... As soon as he/she figure out your not lying to them, THEN they can believe everything your saying.. but that takes more than just a "Hi, can I have you license.... But officer I havn't sped since I was a kid"....
Im sure you can find some on the internet... but try and think of an excuse for speeding or breaking the law in your car that a cop HASN"T heard a million times... so others before you have screwed you over, not the cop... Im sure the original poster was like the 3rd or 4th person that day for the cop (assuming hes a traffic cop) that told him his record was sqeaky clean and he'd NEVER do it again!... THAT is why cops just write tickets... not because their dicks (although I admit some are)... but because there is not enough time in the day to research every person they pull over and find out if they are telling the truth... that is was COURT is for... to tell your side of the story..
I GUARANTEE that when you sign the ticket its not an admission of guilt... its just a promise to appear in court to give your side of the story so the JUDGE, not the cop, can determine if your lying and deserve a break or not... its not the cops JOB to do that... so don't get mad at the cop for not giving you a break... thats the judges job to determine if you deserve one or not.
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St. Jude Donor '06
Originally Posted by aus10cop
$12.00/$15.00 per hour???? 
Try six figures (with overtime).
http://www.statesman.com/search/cont...4policeot.html
Try six figures (with overtime).http://www.statesman.com/search/cont...4policeot.html
Good on you if you're making $100K as a cop - back in the late 80's, the going rate was $20K-$25K year (and a post on the Texas border).
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From: Alpena Michigan
Originally Posted by sandmanusd
"Yes officer, I was beating my wife, but I havn't done it in SUUUUUCH a long time... cant you take that into consideration!?!
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
I feel beating your wife to be a lot more serious offense than 10 over the speed limit! If you read the news you'll find that even wife beaters are at times given leineincy. Not saying I agree with that but that's your comparison not mine. I would think that if an officer checked you record and found had numerous previous violations for speeding it would influence him to not give you a break and you would get issued another ticket from him! Alternatively if he saw no tickets he would be more likely to cut you a break. Insurance companies check your record also and if you have many accidents your rates are more, no accidents or violations your rates will be lower. You could say that they "cut you a break" on your rates because you haven't beat your wife lately! Last time I checked it was still "innocent until proven guilty" in our court system so your comment of
WHAT?!?! YOU aren't taking my lack of breaking the law (or lack of getting caught is probably more likely) for a set period of time as an excuse for breaking it now!?!!? YOUR AN A-HOLE!!!"
Take care,
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by sandmanusd
and how is the officer supposed to know your entire driving record? Just based on what you say it is? Just for info... EVERYONE lies to cops... so those that don't lie, have to get over that barrier that the cop he is talking to is assuming that they are lying.
Its the nature of the job... the VAST majority of people that police officers have to deal with on a daily basis are lying about something, if not everything about them... So if a cop belives what you say on the first go around, that cop is either a newbie rookie, or just plain ignorant... its the nature of the job... those that don't think its true, just ask a relative or friend that is a cop... he'll tell you...
everything that people say to cops during a day is assumed to be a lie, a stretch of the truth, an exageration, or a "buttering up" of the truth. and you have to prove otherwise... its a defense mechanism...
otherwise crooks and bad guys would walk all over cops... why WOULDN"T bad guys lie... if they tell the truth, they go to jail, if they lie, they have a CHANCE of not going to jail...
so don't get mad if you get pulled over or you call the cops and the cop doesn't seem like he believes you or believes every little thing your saying... thats his job NOT to... its called investigation... if he believes everything everyone says, hes not doing his job.... As soon as he/she figure out your not lying to them, THEN they can believe everything your saying.. but that takes more than just a "Hi, can I have you license.... But officer I havn't sped since I was a kid"....
Im sure you can find some on the internet... but try and think of an excuse for speeding or breaking the law in your car that a cop HASN"T heard a million times... so others before you have screwed you over, not the cop... Im sure the original poster was like the 3rd or 4th person that day for the cop (assuming hes a traffic cop) that told him his record was sqeaky clean and he'd NEVER do it again!... THAT is why cops just write tickets... not because their dicks (although I admit some are)... but because there is not enough time in the day to research every person they pull over and find out if they are telling the truth... that is was COURT is for... to tell your side of the story..
I GUARANTEE that when you sign the ticket its not an admission of guilt... its just a promise to appear in court to give your side of the story so the JUDGE, not the cop, can determine if your lying and deserve a break or not... its not the cops JOB to do that... so don't get mad at the cop for not giving you a break... thats the judges job to determine if you deserve one or not.
Its the nature of the job... the VAST majority of people that police officers have to deal with on a daily basis are lying about something, if not everything about them... So if a cop belives what you say on the first go around, that cop is either a newbie rookie, or just plain ignorant... its the nature of the job... those that don't think its true, just ask a relative or friend that is a cop... he'll tell you...
everything that people say to cops during a day is assumed to be a lie, a stretch of the truth, an exageration, or a "buttering up" of the truth. and you have to prove otherwise... its a defense mechanism...
otherwise crooks and bad guys would walk all over cops... why WOULDN"T bad guys lie... if they tell the truth, they go to jail, if they lie, they have a CHANCE of not going to jail...
so don't get mad if you get pulled over or you call the cops and the cop doesn't seem like he believes you or believes every little thing your saying... thats his job NOT to... its called investigation... if he believes everything everyone says, hes not doing his job.... As soon as he/she figure out your not lying to them, THEN they can believe everything your saying.. but that takes more than just a "Hi, can I have you license.... But officer I havn't sped since I was a kid"....
Im sure you can find some on the internet... but try and think of an excuse for speeding or breaking the law in your car that a cop HASN"T heard a million times... so others before you have screwed you over, not the cop... Im sure the original poster was like the 3rd or 4th person that day for the cop (assuming hes a traffic cop) that told him his record was sqeaky clean and he'd NEVER do it again!... THAT is why cops just write tickets... not because their dicks (although I admit some are)... but because there is not enough time in the day to research every person they pull over and find out if they are telling the truth... that is was COURT is for... to tell your side of the story..
I GUARANTEE that when you sign the ticket its not an admission of guilt... its just a promise to appear in court to give your side of the story so the JUDGE, not the cop, can determine if your lying and deserve a break or not... its not the cops JOB to do that... so don't get mad at the cop for not giving you a break... thats the judges job to determine if you deserve one or not.
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by Suprfun
Well looks like we have a slight difference in how we look at things sandmanusd. I feel beating your wife to be a lot more serious offense than 10 over the speed limit! If you read the news you'll find that even wife beaters are at times given leineincy. Not saying I agree with that but that's your comparison not mine. I would think that if an officer checked you record and found had numerous previous violations for speeding it would influence him to not give you a break and you would get issued another ticket from him! Alternatively if he saw no tickets he would be more likely to cut you a break. Insurance companies check your record also and if you have many accidents your rates are more, no accidents or violations your rates will be lower. You could say that they "cut you a break" on your rates because you haven't beat your wife lately! Last time I checked it was still "innocent until proven guilty" in our court system so your comment of doesn't carry much weight with me. I also wouldn't call someone an a-hole based on one post in a forum, it doesn't reflect well on you or "your" opinions.
Take care,
I feel beating your wife to be a lot more serious offense than 10 over the speed limit! If you read the news you'll find that even wife beaters are at times given leineincy. Not saying I agree with that but that's your comparison not mine. I would think that if an officer checked you record and found had numerous previous violations for speeding it would influence him to not give you a break and you would get issued another ticket from him! Alternatively if he saw no tickets he would be more likely to cut you a break. Insurance companies check your record also and if you have many accidents your rates are more, no accidents or violations your rates will be lower. You could say that they "cut you a break" on your rates because you haven't beat your wife lately! Last time I checked it was still "innocent until proven guilty" in our court system so your comment of doesn't carry much weight with me. I also wouldn't call someone an a-hole based on one post in a forum, it doesn't reflect well on you or "your" opinions. Take care,
Food for thought:
IF YOU ALWAYS RECEIVED A WARNING BECAUSE OF YOUR "CLEAN RECORD", THEN YOU WOULD JUST BE A REPEAT VIOLATOR WITH NO RECORD. WHAT GOOD IS THAT?
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by HIRISC
I think you may have missed the point of my post
Good on you if you're making $100K as a cop - back in the late 80's, the going rate was $20K-$25K year (and a post on the Texas border).
Good on you if you're making $100K as a cop - back in the late 80's, the going rate was $20K-$25K year (and a post on the Texas border).
Was just trying to say that we aren't the underpaid authority abusers that people always refer us to be. It now comes with a hefty price tag. (THAT WAS A JOKE). 
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From: Central CA
Originally Posted by Suprfun
I also wouldn't call someone an a-hole based on one post in a forum, it doesn't reflect well on you or "your" opinions.
Take care,
Take care,
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From: Alpena Michigan
Originally Posted by sandmanusd
Ha!.. i wasn't calling the poster an A-hole.. the quote was around the "A-hole" meaning, the ficticious person in my scenario was calling the cop an a-hole... look for the quotes my friend!
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I just got my first speeding ticket in 35 years last Monday. I was speeding pure and simple. I got busted, if I was in my pickup who knows what!!
his answer to me was "nice car" you can drive as fast as you want in Wyoming but your in Colorado and you driving 78 in a 65 I'll write the ticket for 10 over that will be $68.80 mail in in 20 days.
I took a quick photo which I will post tomorrow. my answer was no hard felling I shook his hand my reply was your just doing your job.
have a nice day and drove off at 75 MPH.
Jim
his answer to me was "nice car" you can drive as fast as you want in Wyoming but your in Colorado and you driving 78 in a 65 I'll write the ticket for 10 over that will be $68.80 mail in in 20 days.
I took a quick photo which I will post tomorrow. my answer was no hard felling I shook his hand my reply was your just doing your job.
have a nice day and drove off at 75 MPH.
Jim
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From: Savannah GA
167 in a 70mph zone!!! i thought i was goin UNDER the jail house..cop said he saw me swerve a lil before i punched it...he jus wonderin if i was under the influence!!!!
hard to believe i know but he said " how fast does that thing go.. 180??" i said " Well.....the dash says 200 but i wouldnt know nuthin about that officer" he said "well... i clocked u goin 167 in a 70..but im not worried about that, i jus saw u swerve back there so i thought u was maybe intoxicated...slow it down and have a nice day!!!
hard to believe i know but he said " how fast does that thing go.. 180??" i said " Well.....the dash says 200 but i wouldnt know nuthin about that officer"
he said "well... i clocked u goin 167 in a 70..but im not worried about that, i jus saw u swerve back there so i thought u was maybe intoxicated...slow it down and have a nice day!!!
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From: Savannah GA
167 in a 70mph zone!!! i thought i was goin UNDER the jail house..cop said he saw me swerve a lil before i punched it...he jus wonderin if i was under the influence!!!!
hard to believe i know but he said " how fast does that thing go.. 180??" i said " Well.....the dash says 200 but i wouldnt know nuthin about that officer" he said "well... i clocked u goin 167 in a 70..but im not worried about that, i jus saw u swerve back there so i thought u was maybe intoxicated...slow it down and have a nice day!!!
hard to believe i know but he said " how fast does that thing go.. 180??" i said " Well.....the dash says 200 but i wouldnt know nuthin about that officer"
he said "well... i clocked u goin 167 in a 70..but im not worried about that, i jus saw u swerve back there so i thought u was maybe intoxicated...slow it down and have a nice day!!!
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From: Cedar Rapids Iowa
Originally Posted by Suprfun
I've had a similar experience although I wasn't in the vette. Hadn't had a ticket in quite a number of years and then was going an actual 35 in a 25 (had the cruise set). I thought the area was a 35 mph zone, my bad. When the officer stopped me I related to him that I hadn't had a ticket in years and had a clean driving record and I hoped he would take that into consideration. He came back with a ticket and when I politely thanked him for taking my driving record into consideration before writing the ticket he stated that he did. When I asked him to explain he said he had clocked me at 40 in a 25 and reduced it to 35 in a 25. That was the first time I ever had a police officer flat out lie to me as I had the cruise set at 35 and have a HUD in the GTP which I immediately looked at when I saw his cruiser with the radar. So it sure seems that a good driving record got me nowhere with him. Thank GOD my insurance company isn't out to rip me as they stated that they wouldn't raise my rates based on my good driving record for just one ticket. So even when you run into a "by the book johnny law" who's having a bad day maybe your insurance company will give you a break based on the fact that you're a good driver with clean record.
One last thing before all the "you deserved the ticket you were going 35 in a 25" group chime in your right I was and I paid the ticket. $95 and two points. What bothered me was the fact that the officer lied about my speed (said I was going 40 in a 25 which I wasn't) and "could" have given me a warning based on my good record, he didn't. My insurance company thankfully did however. We all make mistakes and when you do "most" police officers will consider your past performance before issuing your a citation for such a small infraction and if he doesn’t hopefully your insurance company will.
Rant mode is now off!
Have a nice day everyone and don't speed!
One last thing before all the "you deserved the ticket you were going 35 in a 25" group chime in your right I was and I paid the ticket. $95 and two points. What bothered me was the fact that the officer lied about my speed (said I was going 40 in a 25 which I wasn't) and "could" have given me a warning based on my good record, he didn't. My insurance company thankfully did however. We all make mistakes and when you do "most" police officers will consider your past performance before issuing your a citation for such a small infraction and if he doesn’t hopefully your insurance company will.
Rant mode is now off!
Have a nice day everyone and don't speed!
Last edited by slwhite; Jul 1, 2006 at 01:47 AM.
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From: Cedar Rapids Iowa
Originally Posted by HIRISC
Not very niceWhile this cop may have had a bad attitude (ticket on 10 over is
, it's important to remember that without guys/gals (cops) willing to eat chit everyday for $12.00/$15.00 an hour, you might be hiding under your stairs due to civil unrest.
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From: Irvine CA
Originally Posted by Suprfun
[...] when I politely thanked him for taking my driving record into consideration before writing the ticket he stated that he did. When I asked him to explain he said he had clocked me at 40 in a 25 and reduced it to 35 in a 25. [...]
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From: Clanton AL
Originally Posted by sandmanusd
and how is the officer supposed to know your entire driving record? Just based on what you say it is? Just for info... EVERYONE lies to cops... so those that don't lie, have to get over that barrier that the cop he is talking to is assuming that they are lying.
Its the nature of the job... the VAST majority of people that police officers have to deal with on a daily basis are lying about something, if not everything about them... So if a cop belives what you say on the first go around, that cop is either a newbie rookie, or just plain ignorant... its the nature of the job... those that don't think its true, just ask a relative or friend that is a cop... he'll tell you...
everything that people say to cops during a day is assumed to be a lie, a stretch of the truth, an exageration, or a "buttering up" of the truth. and you have to prove otherwise... its a defense mechanism...
otherwise crooks and bad guys would walk all over cops... why WOULDN"T bad guys lie... if they tell the truth, they go to jail, if they lie, they have a CHANCE of not going to jail...
so don't get mad if you get pulled over or you call the cops and the cop doesn't seem like he believes you or believes every little thing your saying... thats his job NOT to... its called investigation... if he believes everything everyone says, hes not doing his job.... As soon as he/she figure out your not lying to them, THEN they can believe everything your saying.. but that takes more than just a "Hi, can I have you license.... But officer I havn't sped since I was a kid"....
Im sure you can find some on the internet... but try and think of an excuse for speeding or breaking the law in your car that a cop HASN"T heard a million times... so others before you have screwed you over, not the cop... Im sure the original poster was like the 3rd or 4th person that day for the cop (assuming hes a traffic cop) that told him his record was sqeaky clean and he'd NEVER do it again!... THAT is why cops just write tickets... not because their dicks (although I admit some are)... but because there is not enough time in the day to research every person they pull over and find out if they are telling the truth... that is was COURT is for... to tell your side of the story..
I GUARANTEE that when you sign the ticket its not an admission of guilt... its just a promise to appear in court to give your side of the story so the JUDGE, not the cop, can determine if your lying and deserve a break or not... its not the cops JOB to do that... so don't get mad at the cop for not giving you a break... thats the judges job to determine if you deserve one or not.
Its the nature of the job... the VAST majority of people that police officers have to deal with on a daily basis are lying about something, if not everything about them... So if a cop belives what you say on the first go around, that cop is either a newbie rookie, or just plain ignorant... its the nature of the job... those that don't think its true, just ask a relative or friend that is a cop... he'll tell you...
everything that people say to cops during a day is assumed to be a lie, a stretch of the truth, an exageration, or a "buttering up" of the truth. and you have to prove otherwise... its a defense mechanism...
otherwise crooks and bad guys would walk all over cops... why WOULDN"T bad guys lie... if they tell the truth, they go to jail, if they lie, they have a CHANCE of not going to jail...
so don't get mad if you get pulled over or you call the cops and the cop doesn't seem like he believes you or believes every little thing your saying... thats his job NOT to... its called investigation... if he believes everything everyone says, hes not doing his job.... As soon as he/she figure out your not lying to them, THEN they can believe everything your saying.. but that takes more than just a "Hi, can I have you license.... But officer I havn't sped since I was a kid"....
Im sure you can find some on the internet... but try and think of an excuse for speeding or breaking the law in your car that a cop HASN"T heard a million times... so others before you have screwed you over, not the cop... Im sure the original poster was like the 3rd or 4th person that day for the cop (assuming hes a traffic cop) that told him his record was sqeaky clean and he'd NEVER do it again!... THAT is why cops just write tickets... not because their dicks (although I admit some are)... but because there is not enough time in the day to research every person they pull over and find out if they are telling the truth... that is was COURT is for... to tell your side of the story..
I GUARANTEE that when you sign the ticket its not an admission of guilt... its just a promise to appear in court to give your side of the story so the JUDGE, not the cop, can determine if your lying and deserve a break or not... its not the cops JOB to do that... so don't get mad at the cop for not giving you a break... thats the judges job to determine if you deserve one or not.
Great post, and I'm sure this helps everyone to understand the "other" side. I ALWAYS admit that I was speeding when pulled over, ecause almost everytime (one time long ago I was stopped, [not in the vette], with no taillights, blown fuse, going 102 in N.C. I had 2k in my pockets {own my own biz}, some and I was frisked and everything. When my license came back clean, he gave me a ticket for 80 in a 70
. He was really cool and I just told him I was speeding because it was 2 in the morning and I needed to get home 2 hrs away, which was the truth. Plus, no one was on the highway). I have gotten lesser amounts many times because I just talk to the police like they are people, I smile, make jokes on myself (works everytime, almost ), and tell them exactly how fast I think I was going. They were usually pleasntly suprised and just gave me ten over alot of times. Cops are people and they know you speed, just be nice, and MOST of the time they will be nice to you.
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From: Clanton AL
Plus, they are hero's when you need them. I once thought about being a police officer, but I don't think I could handle seeing people in all that pain and anguish and sometimes pure hell all the time. It's a hard job to do, and I salute all the men in blue, camo, firehats, flight suits, medical scrubs, or sometimes business suits. They all help to serve and protect us, even though sometimes it isn't fair. But it beats the hell out of making you home a fortress, being armed constantly, and worrying about roving bands of militant thugs raping your women and destroying your property (think Africa, or checnya, Iraq, or anyplace of hell).
I agree we are only talking about speeding, which was slight. But, if you give people an inch, they will take a mile. And if we didn't have the fear of LEO's for speeding, I'm sure we'd see alot more threads like the poor guy form Canada, Myron
, because we all feel a little invincible in our Vettes.
I agree we are only talking about speeding, which was slight. But, if you give people an inch, they will take a mile. And if we didn't have the fear of LEO's for speeding, I'm sure we'd see alot more threads like the poor guy form Canada, Myron
, because we all feel a little invincible in our Vettes.
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From: Big Red Ne
By Sandmanusd
Here in Nebraska, all they have to do is punch in your license number and your entire driving record pops up on their in cruiser computer.
and how is the officer supposed to know your entire driving record?