Is the Ice box for the blackwing worth the money? How much difference does it make? How hard is the Icebox to install? I've heard you have to cut the shroud for the icebox. Let me know guys.

Does anyone have instructions for installing the Icebox? If so, could you post..I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

 

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I'm curious too, and where can I find one?

 

I have a basic Blackwing(came on the car),,never heard of it. Interested in hearing about it too!!

 

the car ingests 600 cu ft minute of air 10 cubic ft a second goes through your intake. you can not transfer enough heat from that air in that short amount of time...eg, if the ambient temp of the air being ingested is 90 f and take that air and put it in your refrigerator at 37 degrees you will not change that air temp by 2 degrees in that second it takes for that air to get swallowed up by the intake stroke. as the next 10 cu ft of hot air enters the cold box in the next sec.

 

Good reply Evil makes sense

 

Yes, you have to cut the shroud. It's no more difficult that any other after market air intake assemblies requiring the shroud to be cut. Here's an image. They were available in black ABS and carbon fiber. Do a search or search this forum (in the red banner) in C5 Tech with keywords "ice box cover" to find more information.



Mount the cover over the "Blackwing" and mark an outline onto the shroud. Remove the air intake assembly, cut the shroud. Make the hole just large enough for the "Blackwing" and no more. Drill four holes. Replace the air intake assembly. I used threaded "nut serts" to make R&R easy. Mount the cover. The filter will get much more dirty so routine maintenance is a must.

They're a bit difficult to find unless you find one in the classified section or know which vendor is still selling them. Whether it's worth the cost or not is subjective. I had one in conjunction with the "Blackwing" that I put on my car. I got all kinds of annoying lean bank codes. I removed it and sold it.

**NOTE** This member has one...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...r1-icebox.html

 

looks like the icebox has no ice

 

I was figuring that it was a way to rout ambient temp air instead of ingesting under hood air!!Figured even 90* air is better than 130-140!! Hey there E.T.,,,where ya been hiding?? Seen several post lately,,but seems you were laying low for a year or so!!

 

Mr Evil, (and Mr. Hotwheels) do you guys suggest i buy a Vararam powerduct instead of getting the icebox?
we have very warm and humid summers, sometimes +47 celcius with humidex, and drive in the city a lot..
Is the Icebox a waste of money?

 

No, anything that can lower the intake air temp...if the under hood temp is 120 and the outside air is 90. 30 degrees difference would be about 4.5 hp...Years ago we would make a fuel coil and put ice in an under hood box before going down the strip.. now denser fuel is a plus and the flow of fuel is slow enough that a chill box can make a difference,,,
Now in the winter you can gain a significant difference in performance with outside air as oppose to under hood air... a heat extracting hood also is a plus, the extractor has to be forward of the engine, anything further back closer to the window will be received by negative pressure caused by air flow in a downward force from the windshield.. those who open the cowl area in the hope of extracting heat will do nothing.. anyone who has experience 800 hours of wind tunnel testing will agree with this.
If you're use to driving your car in 90+days where surface temps on a black top road can reach 140/160 F// and this is where the C5 gets its air. With super heated engines with temps approaching 260 F underhood air can get close to 200F and can easily boild water on the block.. how about opening the fod shrouns bringing in ambient temps which cause a vortex and pull heat of the top of the engine bay through the extracting function of a heat extracting hood that is design to do this... if you notice the C5 R hood is design with the extractor forward of the engine block. Lost of hgood extracting hoods out there.. the MCM hood is one of the best because of the design. the material and its one of the only after markey hood out there that is design to brake apart on impact.. thats why its DOT approved for impact. You do not want the hood coming through the windshield. God am I long winded????? There is alot og good stuff rolling around in my heat LOL.. I need t get it out because at my age you never know when Im going to loose it.
Its a bottom feeder.
this is where a heat extracting hood really helps .. under hood temps can reach 240 to 250F .
if you take the performance of a C5 driven in a 90 + day, and compare it to a C5 driven in 20 F winter conditions with a cold intake you could see a variance in performance of 25 hp. I hope this makes sense.. but also remember this if you are familiar with how the car feels on a given day whether its 30 degrees out side, or 90 butting on a cold air intake is only going to increase the performance by 2 or 3 hp... its the difference in summer and winter driving where the difference is notices easily.. you wont notice a couple of HP... its like driving the car with a 1/8 tank of gas or driving with a full tank, or driving with a passenger and not.. you cant feel the difference