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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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I hate to bring this up, and yes I did read th FAQ's. 03 Z, my understanding from the FAQ thread is that the recall was reprogramming only. Had it in to the stealer for a door lock motor needing to be replaced (how many days does it take a GM service shop to replace a door lock motor?) and they performed the recall but the ticket says they removed the column lock plate, did not mention reprogramming, and I can turn the wheel without the key, so am assuming they did remove the plate.
I assume the problem is solved, but did they do what they were supposed to do?

by the way, the answer is 4.

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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Funny you should mention this, I've been researching column lock all morning and found that "a" recall has been done to my 03 Z. I deduced this by finding a white wire instead of an orange wire down at the harness. Anywho, my steering wheel DOES lock still; so I'm not sure what, if anything has been done. I PM'ed another guy on here to run my VIN but I'd like to know what the hell has been done to my car.

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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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I know how you feel, I spent a few afternoons researching it last week when it was in the shop so I could check it out when I got it back. When I noticed they did it, I didn't even bother to check the wiring harness since the steering does not lock, and until I hear otehrwise, will assume that it is ok.

Am just concerned if there was supposed to be some programming, that maybe the brains might still give me the blue screen of death so to speak.

Josh
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by syf350
I hate to bring this up, and yes I did read th FAQ's. 03 Z, my understanding from the FAQ thread is that the recall was reprogramming only. Had it in to the stealer for a door lock motor needing to be replaced (how many days does it take a GM service shop to replace a door lock motor?) and they performed the recall but the ticket says they removed the column lock plate, did not mention reprogramming, and I can turn the wheel without the key, so am assuming they did remove the plate.
I assume the problem is solved, but did they do what they were supposed to do?

by the way, the answer is 4.

Thanks in advance,

Josh
Josh, when you took your car in and they entered the serial number it their computer it should let them know if a recall was performed in the past. It will also let them know if any recalls are outstanding. In your case I would surmise that the earlier recall had been performed and they have now performed the latest recall, that does in-fact, remove the lock plate.

mark896... your vehicle has probably had the earlier recall performed which re-flashed your PCM to add the fuel cut-off function and modified your wiring. The latest recall has obviously not been performed since your column will still lock.

I believe that in order to perform the latest recall they will need to perform the earlier recall (or ensure it was done) as well. The best thing to do is talk to a knowledgeable technician regarding your specific situation.

I recently had the latest recall performed and asked the technician if he could remove the fuel shut-off function from the PCM since he was removing the lock plate (it would seem unnecessary). He told me that the program that re-flashed my PCM is received from GM specific to your vehicle and that he could not change it back. He didn't say he wouldn't, he said he couldn't... without a program that they only receive from GM. I'm guessing that GM isn't going to be too willing to do this, but do not know if the professional engine tuner's can do this.

Good luck... GUSTO
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Gusto, thanks for the reply and cool pic of the Sea Knights..

The way I understand it, if you have had all of the recalls done to your car, the fuel shut off should already be deleted. I guess I may have it done, but I agree; I need to take it to the stealership and have them fix it.

Is this gonna be free? (I think) I'm out of warranty.

Bottom line is that I actually WANT the aftermarket CLB installed on the car. But can't install it if it's not going to be functional.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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I am fairly new as well and the whole column lock thing was the biggest worry I had when I got the car. After reading thru everything I decided not to go with the 4006-C bulletin and bought the column lock block. Only took about 45 minutes to install it and now I dont have to worry about the whole mess.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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My car had the first 4006 recall done in early 2004. I have had the car in for warranty work 2 times in the last 2 months and they WOULD NOTT perform the 4006C recall on it (remove the plate). I told them I wanted it done and 3 dealers refused to do it on my car. Have now called even a 4th dealer and they flat out told me no also on the 4006C recall. They will not perform the C recall on mine UNLESS I have a DIC code OR I am towed in with a locked steering column.

I cannot put a CLB on UNLESS I have the 4006C performed so at the moment im screwed.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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My car had the first 4006 recall done in early 2004. I have had the car in for warranty work 2 times in the last 2 months and they WOULD NOTT perform the 4006C recall on it (remove the plate). I told them I wanted it done and 3 dealers refused to do it on my car. Have now called even a 4th dealer and they flat out told me no also on the 4006C recall. They will not perform the C recall on mine UNLESS I have a DIC code OR I am towed in with a locked steering column.

I cannot put a CLB on UNLESS I have the 4006C performed so at the moment im screwed.
I bought the GM Harness K kit a couple of years ago, before GM decided to remove the lockplate on manual cars, and had the local dealer remove the lockplate. I did not ask them to do the recall, I just told them I wanted the lockplate removed and the smaller plate installed. I later filed a claim and GM paid me for the cost of the parts and labor.
If you feel strongly enough about it, you can always buy the parts and install them yourself.
Why do you think that the CLB will not work unless you have had the last recall? It should work whether the lockplate has been removed or not. I would have the dealer remove the lockplate, then you can decide if you want to stay with the GM relay harness or replace it with the aftermarket CLB. Either one should work.
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I have been told the CLB will not work correctly when the first 4006 recall has been done by 2 suppliers that sell them. To install it I have to have the C recall done or the first recall taken out or whatever they did. Ive read hundreds of threads on this subject and its one of GM's biggest jokes trying to resolve the problem.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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awe man, mine's finally starting to do this. Ive been running from these threads in hopes of not having to deal with it, but now I do..

Before i hijack the thread/ask stupid questions, ill read the FAQ :o
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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thanks to all, but am now confused...if the dealer removed the lockplate, why would it be necessary to still install a CLB?

Forgive me if I am missing the obvious.

Josh
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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I think even with the lockplate removed the computer can still shut down the fuel pump or not start at all. The CLB bypasses all that.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by briann510
I think even with the lockplate removed the computer can still shut down the fuel pump or not start at all. The CLB bypasses all that.
True. The problem with the dealer recalls is they also install a faulty K harness which has been a constant problem, and most likely you'll end up stranded. Best bet..................get the CLB and be done with it.
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Make sure when you search...you use the archives too. Lots there. Here's some more info:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1378074

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Gusto, thanks for the reply and cool pic of the Sea Knights..

The way I understand it, if you have had all of the recalls done to your car, the fuel shut off should already be deleted. I guess I may have it done, but I agree; I need to take it to the stealership and have them fix it.

Is this gonna be free? (I think) I'm out of warranty.

Bottom line is that I actually WANT the aftermarket CLB installed on the car. But can't install it if it's not going to be functional.
You cannot have the fuel shutoff feature deleted, there is no program from GM to allow that.

BTW the title of this thread is misleading...CLB stands Column Lock Bypass (kit) and there is no recall for that item.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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If you use an aftermarket CLB, such as that sold by Corvettes of Houston, you do not need to remove the locking plate. As part of the installation procedure, the power to the locking motor is permanently removed after the locking pin is in the retracted position. This makes it impossible for the steering wheel to ever lock up again.

Forget all the factory recalls dealing with this. Just buy an aftermarket CLB and be done with this matter.
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