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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Everytime I read something about LED tail lights, it seems it's really all about the design of the tail light housings and not really about the LED's themselves, at all.

Has anyone ever gotten their OEM tail lights "tinted/darkened" and put LED's inside of them?

If so, how did it look, brightness wise, and where did you get the LED bulbs themselves? Also, did the LED's affect the "blink rate" any, and if so, what did you do to correct that?
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TuffShift
Has anyone ever gotten their OEM tail lights "tinted/darkened" and put LED's inside of them?

If so, how did it look, brightness wise, and where did you get the LED bulbs themselves? Also, did the LED's affect the "blink rate" any, and if so, what did you do to correct that?
We've done a LOT of testing and research on this subject. The conclusion is that when you put ANY LED bulb into an OEM housing, you will diminish it's light output to less than what an incandescent standard bulb will offer. After discussing this with several high end manufactures, it's clear that this concept never had a chance of working. First important factor is that the OEM lenses are all wrong with its internal reflective cuts. An LED will have its best effect when projecting directly through a lens. So basically the internal cross cuts of an OEM lens that offers it's reflective ability, is exactly what disrupts an LEDS projection. The second and equally as significant issues, is that each LED bulb is manufacture with a magnification tip. For this tip to work properly (focus) it's designed to be place at an exact measurement from the lens. This serves as focusing. When focused, the LEDs light output is maximized. When out of focus, or not set at proper distance from the lens, the LEDs light output is greatly diminished. The manufactures of a particular LED bulb made "lets say" an 3157 LED replacement Bulb to be used with various housing and lenses, with absolutely no consideration as to focus. This is precisely why a sealed LED light housing unit is so bright and effective, and a simple bulb replacement is not. With that said, it's my opinion that such LED replacement taillight bulbs are in reality, nothing more than an ineffective novelty. And yes, you would need to install an in-line load equalizer for each unit to eliminate "Rapid Flash".

This picture is of 2 red OEM lenses. One has the LED Bulb, while the other has the standard bulb.


Now here's a red lens with standard bulb, compared to a Blackedout Halo LED sealed unit.



I hope this helps
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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The blackcherry LEDs rock got to put them on my christmas list for sure.
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These are several daytime shots of the Black Cherry LEDS with brake lights on and no lights

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Originally Posted by C5VetteLS1
We've done a LOT of testing and research on this subject. The conclusion is that when you put ANY LED bulb into an OEM housing, you will diminish it's light output to less than what an incandescent standard bulb will offer. After discussing this with several high end manufactures, it's clear that this concept never had a chance of working. First important factor is that the OEM lenses are all wrong with its internal reflective cuts. An LED will have its best effect when projecting directly through a lens. So basically the internal cross cuts of an OEM lens that offers it's reflective ability, is exactly what disrupts an LEDS projection. The second and equally as significant issues, is that each LED bulb is manufacture with a magnification tip. For this tip to work properly (focus) it's designed to be place at an exact measurement from the lens. This serves as focusing. When focused, the LEDs light output is maximized. When out of focus, or not set at proper distance from the lens, the LEDs light output is greatly diminished. The manufactures of a particular LED bulb made "lets say" an 3157 LED replacement Bulb to be used with various housing and lenses, with absolutely no consideration as to focus. This is precisely why a sealed LED light housing unit is so bright and effective, and a simple bulb replacement is not. With that said, it's my opinion that such LED replacement taillight bulbs are in reality, nothing more than an ineffective novelty. And yes, you would need to install an in-line load equalizer for each unit to eliminate "Rapid Flash".

This picture is of 2 red OEM lenses. One has the LED Bulb, while the other has the standard bulb.


Now here's a red lens with standard bulb, compared to a Blackedout Halo LED sealed unit.



I hope this helps
Richard
Or a flasher harness adapter from Adjure. Adds a second flasher and eliminates quick flash.
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Originally Posted by TuffShift
Everytime I read something about LED tail lights, it seems it's really all about the design of the tail light housings and not really about the LED's themselves, at all.

Has anyone ever gotten their OEM tail lights "tinted/darkened" and put LED's inside of them?

If so, how did it look, brightness wise, and where did you get the LED bulbs themselves? Also, did the LED's affect the "blink rate" any, and if so, what did you do to correct that?

While I like the design of the Halo LED's it's not the reason I bought them. I bought them for the LED's. They are brighter, safer, activate quicker than bulbs and they are high tech. I like high tech.

I'm sure there are those that don't care for LED's but I like em and they just look so damn good.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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Or a flasher harness adapter from Adjure. Adds a second flasher and eliminates quick flash.
Robert
it doesn't eliminate the dim light output though.
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it doesn't eliminate the dim light output though.
Huh? I've been using four Ledtronics units, each with 24 LEDS and don't have "dim lights". They are however, approx. equivalent to the light output of OEM incandescents, but use much much less current; which is one of the reasons I chose LEDS in the first place.
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Huh? I've been using four Ledtronics units, each with 24 LEDS and don't have "dim lights". They are however, approx. equivalent to the light output of OEM incandescents, but use much much less current; which is one of the reasons I chose LEDS in the first place.
in all the pics, videos and user reviews that i've personally read, sticking an LED bulb in the stock housing produces a dimmer light output than the stock incandescent bulb.

the pic above from Richard shows this as well.

i haven't seen it in person, just in pics and vids. if it works for you,
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