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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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I always buy a carfax when buying used just got one the other day for my daughter but I know of a person who was in an accident (with injuries }police report and local paint shop invovled and ran a carfax ten months later and guess what nothing found I do think they are a piece of mind but not fool proof
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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I was told that the only thing that shows up on there is IF the car was a stolen/recovery or a "salvage" title. Other than that, the mileage report is about the only thing useful on there.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Wifes got caught in roadway with water that flooded interior and engine sucked it up and basically had to replace engine and lots of electrical stuff. Out of curiosity ran a carfax on vette I bought and since got anther free one checked to see if it showed up on wifes car and nothing. All work was done at the dealer a year or so before checking.
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Notice of Class Action Settlement - West v. Carfax

You are receiving this because we already had your email address as a customer or former customer of Carfax, Inc. ("Carfax"). If you were NOT a customer or former customer of Carfax, our apologies. Please send an email to NotWestCar@gardencitygroup.com to tell us we were mistaken and we won't send you further emails about this settlement. If you were a customer of Carfax, but don't want to receive any additional communication regarding this settlement please send an email to WestCarUnsubscribe@gardencitygroup.com. DO NOT use the "reply" button on your email to try to communicate with us (we will not receive your message that way). Use only the links and other email addresses in this email.

NOTICE OF CLASS ACTION SETTLEMENT

West v. Carfax, Inc., No. 04-CV-1898
Court of Common Pleas, Trumbull County, Ohio
161 High Street, NW, Warren, Ohio 44481-1006
IF YOU HAVE PURCHASED A CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT FROM CARFAX PLEASE NOTE THAT A SETTLEMENT OF VARIOUS LEGAL CLAIMS RELATING TO SUCH PURCHASES HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN THIS CLASS ACTION.* THE SETTLEMENT MAY AFFECT YOUR RIGHTS.

WHAT IS THIS CASE ABOUT?
Plaintiff claims that Carfax violated the consumer protection laws of all fifty states by not properly disclosing terms and conditions for, and limitations of, Carfax Vehicle History Reports.* Carfax denies all of Plaintiff's claims of wrongdoing.

HOW DO I KNOW IF I'M A MEMBER OF THE SETTLEMENT CLASS?
If you purchased a Carfax Vehicle History Report directly from Carfax at any time before October 27, 2006, you're a Class Member for purposes of this settlement.

WHAT DO I GET IF I REMAIN IN THE SETTLEMENT?
Class Members who remain in the settlement can claim a Voucher good for $20.00 off a vehicle inspection by a designated third party within six months of final approval of the settlement, a Voucher good for two free Carfax Vehicle History Reports from Carfax within one year of final approval of the settlement, a Voucher for one free Carfax Vehicle History Report from Carfax within two years of final approval of the settlement, or a Voucher for 50% off an unlimited number of Carfax Vehicle History Reports (for personal, not commercial use) over 30 consecutive days within three years of final approval of the settlement.* The Court will also order Carfax to make certain changes in its disclosures and contracting process with customers.

HOW DO I CLAIM A VOUCHER?
To claim a Voucher, you must fill out a claim form and return it to the Settlement Administrator so that it is postmarked no later than May 27, 2007.* Claim forms are available at www.WestCarSettlement.com or by contacting the Settlement Administrator at:
West v. Carfax, Inc. Settlement
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1 (888) 257-8216

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT ME?
On April 27, 2007, at 1:00 pm, Judge Andrew D. Logan will hold a hearing at the courthouse at 161 High Street, NW, Warren, Ohio to decide whether to approve this settlement.* If he approves the settlement, all Class Members will be bound by the resulting judgment and court orders, and eligible Class Members will be entitled to claim benefits under the settlement.* IF YOU DON'T OPT OUT OF THE SETTLEMENT AND IT IS APPROVED, YOU WILL FOREVER RELEASE ANY RIGHTS YOU HAVE TO SUE CARFAX OR ITS RELATED ENTITIES FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE FACTS OR CLAIMS COVERED IN THE SETTLEMENT.

HOW DO I OPT OUT OR OBJECT?
If you're a Class Member and want to opt out of this settlement, you must do so in writing by March 13, 2007.* You must provide your full name and address, state that you want to opt out of the Carfax settlement in West v. Carfax, Inc., No. 04-CV-1898, and deliver your request by mail, hand or overnight delivery service to the Settlement Administrator so that it is received on or before March 13, 2007.* If you want to object to this settlement, you must do so in writing by March 27, 2007.* You must provide your full name and address, include all arguments, citations, and evidence supporting your objection, specify who, if anyone, will attend the hearing to speak for your objection, deliver your objection both to Class Counsel and to Defendants' Counsel by mail, hand or overnight delivery service so that it is received on or before March 27, 2007, and file at the same time a copy of your objection with the Clerk of Court in Warren, Ohio.

WHO REPRESENTS THE CLASS?
Plaintiff Edward B. West represents the Class.* The lead Class Counsel is William B. Federman of Federman & Sherwood, 10205 North Pennsylvania Avenue, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73120.* Local Ohio counsel is Curtis J. Ambrosey of Ambrosey & Fredericka, 144 North Park Avenue, Suite 200, Warren, Ohio 44481.* You will not pay their attorneys' fees and costs.* The Court may award them and their co-counsel attorneys' fees and costs.* Carfax has agreed that it will pay up to $566,000 in such fees and costs if awarded by the Court.* Defendants are represented by Christopher M. Mason of Nixon Peabody LLP, 437 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10022.* Local Ohio counsel is Hugh E. McKay of Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP, 925 Euclid Avenue, Suite 1700, Cleveland, Ohio 44115.

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IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, VISIT www.WestCarSettlement.com or contact the Settlement Administrator at West v. Carfax, Inc. Settlement, Settlement Administrator, PO Box 91190, Seattle, WA* 98111-9290, 1 (888) 257-8216.* If you have further questions, you may write to Class Counsel c/o William B. Federman, Federman & Sherwood, 10205 North Pennsylvania Avenue, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73120.* DO NOT
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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I had a car that after some dealer investigation showed to be bought/sold 12 different times all across the country. It also had been in approx 4 different wrecks that we could tell from when I had it in the body shop after wrecking it. CarFax didn't show anything...
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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My wife had bought a used car with very low mileage for her mom several years ago from a dealership that said the car was never leased, and was traded in because the previous owner wanted a different model sedan. We bought a CarFax report on the car and nothing showed up other than the original purchase and the sale to the dealership that had the car.

About a year later, I had a buddy who had the 30 day unlimited CarFax "package" and was running all my cars through just to see what the reports stated. The used car that my wife had bought now showed up as having been leased, wrecked once, and with have a 25K odometer rollback! We were both shocked, and the number of times the car had been in for service under the extended warranty started making more sense. Since her mom really liked the car and we didn't really want to spend the money on another car at the time, we just lived with it.

Another couple of years later, we finally decided to take the car from her because she had series of accidents, it had been stolen and recovered once, and we had determined that she was no longer capable of driving a large sedan safely. When we went to sell the car, we decided to run another CarFax report (had another friend with the 30 days) and the car came up completely clean again!

Ever since that experience, I don't trust any CarFax reports and I'm now glad to see that there is a class action suit against them!
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JOEDEWZ
I always buy a carfax when buying used just got one the other day for my daughter but I know of a person who was in an accident (with injuries }police report and local paint shop invovled and ran a carfax ten months later and guess what nothing found I do think they are a piece of mind but not fool proof
Did you text that from a cell phone? Throw in a period at random every once in a while.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Did you text that from a cell phone? Throw in a period at random every once in a while.
Did you get the point !!! I would ask if you were an english major but I see you are from Tenn. so that answers that!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by JOEDEWZ
Did you get the point !!! I would ask if you were an english major but I see you are from Tenn. so that answers that!!!!!!
Not only didn't get the point, don't think there was one. I see from this response that your keyboard does have punctuation on it, so all is well.
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