Your Honest Opinion Requested
Pro
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Fresno CA
When I lived in Fairbanks, Alaska I used a repair shop like you described. It was called SHARC for self help auto repair clinic. The big draw was that it was heated and lighted well. Damn cold up there. My friend and I did a brake job. We planned it all out before we went in, you paid by the hour. We worked like a Nascar pit crew. Had the brakes done in about an hour! I think it was almost run as a community service project. The weather was the biggest factor in us using the place. Good luck!
Racer
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: State of Perplexity California
Since you're just asking about price, that price sounds reasonable to me. But I know nothing about the demographics in your area or demand for this type of service (I'm not a potential customer there) so my input really shouldn't mean much, if anything.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 874
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From: Campbell Ca
OH BOY,,,are you in for a ride!!
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!!
AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.
I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!!
AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I salute you Chief!
.....3rd Class Petty Officer Rocket
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 874
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From: Campbell Ca
OH BOY,,,are you in for a ride!!
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!! AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.
I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!!
AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I salute you Chief!
.....3rd Class Petty Officer Rocket
Race Director
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From: Northern Illinois
Oldtimer
I'd be curious about the liability if you rent the tools by the hour compared to lending them out for a small deposit. Does one lesson your liability over the other? I'm guessing that you might want to have some kind of signed waiver, particularly if power tools are involved. I can see someone using a power tool and injuring themselves, then claiming that they didn't receive "proper" training in its use. You might be better off having them bring their own tools. Just food for thought.
Melting Slicks
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I think all the "worst-case" guys make very vaild points -- and I'd fear the same activity myself. That said, maybe you need to do something to weed out the troublemakers. How about an annual $500 or $1000 "membership" that needs to be paid up front, and then the first X hours of use are pre-paid. You could even offer various levels of membership; for instance $500 is basic, for $1000 you get a secure locker for storing small tools and fluids, for $2000 you get a 24-hour access key, etc. An arrangement like this will also help you raise money for the insurance and other expenses and even give you the legit right to pre-screen applicants with a credit and background check. That could protect you AND the other members, and possibly even put your insurers at ease and get you better rates. (Just speculating on that last point -- I have no idea how inruance would work for something like this)
I'd also suggest solicting car clubs for memberships. Heaven knows your life will be a lot easier if the place is always filled up with Porsche guys, Corvette guys, Classic muscle car guys, etc. since they'll be more mature and as club members they'll draw each other in and police themselves.
Good luck with the venture. I've always thought a place like that would be good to have available.
I'd also suggest solicting car clubs for memberships. Heaven knows your life will be a lot easier if the place is always filled up with Porsche guys, Corvette guys, Classic muscle car guys, etc. since they'll be more mature and as club members they'll draw each other in and police themselves.
Good luck with the venture. I've always thought a place like that would be good to have available.
Last edited by rcs128; Feb 10, 2007 at 06:04 AM.
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From: Washington County, South UTAH
When I lived on Long Island, New York, a place like you describe, opened in the 1970's. They rented lift bays at perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 the going shop labor rate(at the time). They rented tools and sold parts and fluids. It went out of business, in no time.
I know you can't compare Milatary personell, to the clients your likley to get. Milatary are WAY more responsible, than the population at large.
For all the reasons, posted by others, I can't amigine you making a profit. But, good luck if you try it!
God Bless America!
I know you can't compare Milatary personell, to the clients your likley to get. Milatary are WAY more responsible, than the population at large.
For all the reasons, posted by others, I can't amigine you making a profit. But, good luck if you try it!
God Bless America!
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
I think all the "worst-case" guys make very valid points -- and I'd fear the same activity myself. That said, maybe you need to do something to weed out the troublemakers. How about an annual $500 or $1000 "membership" that needs to be paid up front, and then the first X hours of use are pre-paid. You could even offer various levels of membership; for instance $500 is basic, for $1000 you get a secure locker for storing small tools and fluids, for $2000 you get a 24-hour access key, etc. An arrangement like this will also help you raise money for the insurance and other expenses and even give you the legit right to pre-screen applicants with a credit and background check. That could protect you AND the other members, and possibly even put your insurers at ease and get you better rates. (Just speculating on that last point -- I have no idea how insurance would work for something like this)
I'd also suggest soliciting car clubs for memberships. Heaven knows your life will be a lot easier if the place is always filled up with Porsche guys, Corvette guys, Classic muscle car guys, etc. since they'll be more mature and as club members they'll draw each other in and police themselves.
Good luck with the venture. I've always thought a place like that would be good to have available.
I'd also suggest soliciting car clubs for memberships. Heaven knows your life will be a lot easier if the place is always filled up with Porsche guys, Corvette guys, Classic muscle car guys, etc. since they'll be more mature and as club members they'll draw each other in and police themselves.
Good luck with the venture. I've always thought a place like that would be good to have available.
Obviously Liability is our biggest concern. We have been exploring the Club Route where only members can use the Clubs shop for X amount.
This enables us to screen customers. We would have equity members (the owners) and non-equity members (the customers) who would pay a membership fee. Maybe only $10. Members using the Club's shop and tools may be the way to go.
Most small business failures are because the individuals involved are under capitalized and do not have the business experience and knowledge to develop and execute a sound business plan. Just because you're a great cook doesn't mean you know how to run a restaurant.
If it works out to be a viable business that's great. If not we'll just keep the place to store and work on our own cars.
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,975
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From: "Philly" Pennsylvania
OH BOY,,,are you in for a ride!!
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!! AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.
I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!!
AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
Lepus-temperamentalus
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Roswell Ga
Here in Atlanta, some years back, someone had that exact idea. Opened a large DIY garage called, "The Monkey Wrench". As I recall, someone was killed there when a car fell off a lift and the business was sued into oblivion.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Woodridge Illinois
St. Jude Donor '06, '13
and even $35 with the use of all the tools
Race Director
Joined: May 2005
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
Nice Idea.
Would rent the space (lift) like some of the storage places and then have a seperate charge for the use of tools. You could issue a badge with bar code on it that the person uses to record usage charges.
I certainly wish there was one of those places near me.
Would rent the space (lift) like some of the storage places and then have a seperate charge for the use of tools. You could issue a badge with bar code on it that the person uses to record usage charges.
I certainly wish there was one of those places near me.
Race Director
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From: Not on either liberal coast.
I always thought something like this would be a great idea, but never saw anyone brave enough to try it as a business venture.
A bunch of local rodders said let's buy x number of acres, all build homes and have one centrally located fully outfitted shop which everyone could use. It would be paid for with monthly fees, like a neighborhood clubhouse.
I hate waiting in line, so I did my own shop instead...still a great idea if you can get past the hurdles.
A bunch of local rodders said let's buy x number of acres, all build homes and have one centrally located fully outfitted shop which everyone could use. It would be paid for with monthly fees, like a neighborhood clubhouse.
I hate waiting in line, so I did my own shop instead...still a great idea if you can get past the hurdles.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,574
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From: Fredericton NB
This idea works great...
We have one on the local military base here....
The only thing I find is that you have to have a tight schedule...in that I mean you have to have people pre-book their floor time so everyone doesnt show up at once...and that does happen !! (IE: inclement weather)...
They also have a "tool crib". This is where you can sign out specialty tools from the attendant. A CC is required and all tools must be returned or your CC is charged.
They dont have tool boxes sitting out for each bay as it is human nature to have sticky fingers. Lots of big ticket items went missing so they went to the "tool crib" idea...You can sign out any tool you would ever need..and it is broken down piece by piece...and they have about 8 or so sets of each !!
If ya need a 3/4 socket ..you go and sign it out....pry bar ..ya go and sign it out...welding goggles..ya go and sign them out etc etc etc
This system works awesome and the garage is always busy. The local school even runs a shop class out of it on selective nights where under heavy supervision the kids do oil changes etc. !!!
If done properly it would be a huge money maker...just do your research on your start up costs !!
Great idea ...go for it !!!!
If ya need more info I can get the base documentation and flyers for the garage the next time I travel to the base.
Cheers !
We have one on the local military base here....
The only thing I find is that you have to have a tight schedule...in that I mean you have to have people pre-book their floor time so everyone doesnt show up at once...and that does happen !! (IE: inclement weather)...
They also have a "tool crib". This is where you can sign out specialty tools from the attendant. A CC is required and all tools must be returned or your CC is charged.
They dont have tool boxes sitting out for each bay as it is human nature to have sticky fingers. Lots of big ticket items went missing so they went to the "tool crib" idea...You can sign out any tool you would ever need..and it is broken down piece by piece...and they have about 8 or so sets of each !!
If ya need a 3/4 socket ..you go and sign it out....pry bar ..ya go and sign it out...welding goggles..ya go and sign them out etc etc etc
This system works awesome and the garage is always busy. The local school even runs a shop class out of it on selective nights where under heavy supervision the kids do oil changes etc. !!!
If done properly it would be a huge money maker...just do your research on your start up costs !!
Great idea ...go for it !!!!
If ya need more info I can get the base documentation and flyers for the garage the next time I travel to the base.
Cheers !
Last edited by BUBBAS 01Z06; Feb 10, 2007 at 02:39 PM.
Pro
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 553
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From: Cape Coral Florida
OH BOY,,,are you in for a ride!!
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!! AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.
I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
I was in the Navy for 26 years and am now retired. I have seen the Navy Hobby Shop Garage here on base go from a 3 bay pig sty to a 20 Bay kingdom with 10 of the best lifts and all the tools you could ever want!!!
AC/Heat, lights, welding, paint booth, tire mounting/balancing, engine hoist, parts cleaners, free rags, oil and tire disposal, technical assistance, tech manuals and steam cleaners. You name it, we had it.I have also see more than my fair share of serious injuries and stupid people who should not be allowed to get near a tool let alone use one!! People who wouldnt listen and people who know everything.
People will steal form you, lie to you, offer you sex, leave hazmat at your site and threaten you with law suits for something that they caused!!! They will bring stolen cars to your shop and strip out what they want and leave it there!
There will be people who will start a project and get deep into it and run out of money. Your going to be stuck with a dismantled car in your bay and NO WHERE to put it!
Speaking of HAZMAT, have you figured out what your going to do with it?? There will be fuel spills, oil spills, and antifreeze spills. Your going to need to figure out how to deal with it.
People will borrow/check out tools and replace your good ones with their bad ones! They will figure out how to use something completely different than what it was ever intended to be used for! Making it useless for what it was originally intended to be used for!
Don't forget about insurance, trash removal, security system, water, electricity and sewer bills. Oh yea,,,hazmat!
Employees! You will be lucky to find someone who you can trust and when your back is turned, they will let their buds in and they will abuse the place. Some employees will steal you BLIND!! The good ones will move on way too fast!
People will completely TRASH the bay that they rent and walk off like it is your job to clean it! Your not just going to be dealing with mature C5 owners. Your most likely going to be dealing with the young teenage ricer crowd who has little or NO respect for your business or authority!
Vacations! What vacations!
Man, I hate to be doom and gloom but, I have seen one of everything at least once and a couple of things it time and time again. Owning your own business is tough! The Hobby shop is used by sailors. We have a little more control over them than you will with the public. Its still very difficult even under strict military discipline.
Good luck!
BC
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,574
Likes: 3
From: Fredericton NB
On civilian street this will work well...
The hobby shops on bases are the last priority...of course they have problems with finances cuz' they charge jack ****....
Properly done....charging the proper rates....you could do well...very well....
Run it like a business...not like a non-profit organization...
Last edited by BUBBAS 01Z06; Feb 10, 2007 at 03:23 PM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,343
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From: las vegas NV
this shop isnt going to be a shop we advertise in the local paper. i have ties with many different car clubs and car enthusiasts who enjoy working on their own cars. the main goal of this shop is to help out true car enthusiasts with things they may lack such as lifts, air tools, and other special tools. we also plan on running a dyno in the shop which will be operated by one of us. I think that peoples curiosity as to how much power they are making prior to mods and after mods will help generate revenue in the dyno department. this is something we are moving forward with and really appreciate your input on pricing
Safety Car
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,000
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From: henderson nevada
No risk, no reward. If you see a market go for it. Lots of ideas never proceed to anything. Too many "what if..." guys here. My uncle got rich in the paper product business working for himself. I work for a large pharmacy and make a decent six-figure salary but it is certainly not connected to my goals and hobbies. If you make money doing what you like...that is the secret
Good luck (let me know the location too) Robert from Green Valley
Good luck (let me know the location too) Robert from Green Valley