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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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I purchased NTRBL33's HID conversion kit. The install was very easy and quick. When I first reconnected the battery and turned the headlights on the drivers side light came on for a few seconds and turned off. The passenger side stayed on and has remained true since. The other one seems to come one and stay on if i crank the engine first, then turn on my head lights, if i turn on the headlights with the car off it goes into "strobe light mode"

I double checked all my connections and it's still doing it, almost seems like a short but when I got the light to stay on and steady I jiggled the wire connections and it didn't phase out or start to strobe. Also if the engine is not cranked sometimes the headlights will not pop up, i can see the lights come on (one is strobe lighting) but they do not pop up. I've never had any problems with my headlight motor's before.

the car is a 2000 coupe. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated, I would like to figure out what is going on tonight before I have to remove everything and put back my regular halogens.
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Ok... sorry about the lesson to follow, but you have to understand what you're dealing with...

When HID's first ignite (since it's a spark, there is no filament)...
The initial "fire up" is the result of a 25K volt discharge from the ballist.

The reason your driver's side is not firing up is because it is further from the battery than the passenger side.

Few things you should keep in mind:

Do not turn HID's on when the car is not running... the drain will cause malfunctions exactly like the ones you've experienced.

If your car has been running and the cooling fans are still on when you start the car back up (let's say you ran into the store and came back out before the car really cooled off)... the power being drawn by the fans will cause the ballist to have less power than optimal to re-ignite the spark.

I know this is a PITA, but if you notice your fans running when right before you turn on your headlights, you can press the gas pedal slightly and raise your RPM's to just about 1k, your lights should come on without strobing. Now, you only have to do this if the fans are still running AND the car is running.

When the car is not on, you may have enough of a build up in the battery to turn then on, but remember, the initial start up is what drains the juice.

After they have been on, they run at about 35w as opposed to the 55w of the incandecent bulbs.

Well, I hope this clears up some of the mystery.

Again, I know it's a PITA, but it is what it is when you install some aftermarket parts which weren't orignally in the equation

BTW, you should check your ballist to make sure water hasn't gotten in ... and the connector to make sure it's not shorting out. I found mine were rusted, so I put some dielectic grease which helped some...

This is my .02 1/2¢

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Originally Posted by MyVetteDream
Ok... sorry about the lesson to follow, but you have to understand what you're dealing with...

When HID's first ignite (since it's a spark, there is no filament)...
The initial "fire up" is the result of a 25K volt discharge from the ballist.

The reason your driver's side is not firing up is because it is further from the battery than the passenger side.

Few things you should keep in mind:

Do not turn HID's on when the car is not running... the drain will cause malfunctions exactly like the ones you've experienced.

If your car has been running and the cooling fans are still on when you start the car back up (let's say you ran into the store and came back out before the car really cooled off)... the power being drawn by the fans will cause the ballist to have less power than optimal to re-ignite the spark.

I know this is a PITA, but if you notice your fans running when right before you turn on your headlights, you can press the gas pedal slightly and raise your RPM's to just about 1k, your lights should come on without strobing. Now, you only have to do this if the fans are still running AND the car is running.

When the car is not on, you may have enough of a build up in the battery to turn then on, but remember, the initial start up is what drains the juice.

After they have been on, they run at about 35w as opposed to the 55w of the incandecent bulbs.

Well, I hope this clears up some of the mystery.

Again, I know it's a PITA, but it is what it is when you install some aftermarket parts which weren't orignally in the equation

BTW, you should check your ballist to make sure water hasn't gotten in ... and the connector to make sure it's not shorting out. I found mine were rusted, so I put some dielectic grease which helped some...

This is my .02 1/2¢

Dave
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Nice write up man, now i know how to work it whenever i buy mine
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Are you sure you didn't accidentally get the commemorative "Disco era" conversion kit?
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...and another thing to try is to have your stalk set to high beams before actually turning the headlights on. Then, you are not depriving the headlight motors of voltage that the ballasts will grab otherwise.
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Originally Posted by DrWorm
I purchased NTRBL33's HID conversion kit. The install was very easy and quick. When I first reconnected the battery and turned the headlights on the drivers side light came on for a few seconds and turned off. The passenger side stayed on and has remained true since. The other one seems to come one and stay on if i crank the engine first, then turn on my head lights, if i turn on the headlights with the car off it goes into "strobe light mode"

I double checked all my connections and it's still doing it, almost seems like a short but when I got the light to stay on and steady I jiggled the wire connections and it didn't phase out or start to strobe. Also if the engine is not cranked sometimes the headlights will not pop up, i can see the lights come on (one is strobe lighting) but they do not pop up. I've never had any problems with my headlight motor's before.

the car is a 2000 coupe. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated, I would like to figure out what is going on tonight before I have to remove everything and put back my regular halogens.
I've had mine (from NTBLE33) since August on my wifes daily driver and they are used almost everyday since she works until 6pm and I have only seen this happen when (one time) I did start the car with the lights up and on at a gas station. They strobed for a couple seconds and then lite up to normal and I've had no other effects. You may want to contact Davis (since you bought them from him) before more people chime in here and crap all over the product. BTW..this has nothing to do with lenght from battery connection since you used the stock car harnesses. Make sure you have the plugs from the bulb to the ballast (two little ones) completely seated and try again. If you still have issues..contact Davis, he is a stand up guy and will do whatever it take so solve your problem.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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Thanks again to CF! Such a wealth of information here!

Here are some pics of turning on my headlights AFTER I let her warm up a few seconds. I have an Optima battery and I notice with the headlights my volts are staying around 13.6-13.8, where as before they were 14.3ish

I have to say these are about 10000x better than stock halogens and a must have for every C5 owner! (or any car for that matter)



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has anyone had the problem where the headlights wont come up when you turn them on. the hids will light up but the headlights stay down. ive seen some that have to be in the hi beam possition befor the headlights will come up and then clicked back down to low beam for the hids to come on. any advice on what could cause this or how to fix it.
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David
Sorry for the problem. I've seen one light do this in 6 months and it worked itself out through use. Its also only when you have the car OFF. I sent you a pm. Let me know how its going.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cook 256North
has anyone had the problem where the headlights wont come up when you turn them on. the hids will light up but the headlights stay down. ive seen some that have to be in the hi beam possition befor the headlights will come up and then clicked back down to low beam for the hids to come on. any advice on what could cause this or how to fix it.
How many CCA is your battery?
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No one's gonna "crap all over the product" because it's not the product's fault. And FWIW, it frequently does have to do with the distance from the battery... with a aftermarket or OEM harness. That's just one possible factor, so I mentioned it.

I hope it works out for Dr Worm... that's all.

Nuff said
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I agree with all of the answers above.

I have highs and lows from Davis and I have seen that if my battery has been drained the light will strobe ... but it is a battery charge state issue NOT a product issue.

And as all others that have these lights have posted ... these lights are GREAT
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Strobe may not be a bad thing. It's a way for civilians to get LEO style "wig-wags"!
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Strobe may not be a bad thing. It's a way for civilians to get LEO style "wig-wags"!
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Originally Posted by DrWorm
Thanks again to CF! Such a wealth of information here!

Here are some pics of turning on my headlights AFTER I let her warm up a few seconds. I have an Optima battery and I notice with the headlights my volts are staying around 13.6-13.8, where as before they were 14.3ish

I have to say these are about 10000x better than stock halogens and a must have for every C5 owner! (or any car for that matter)




does the IS have stock lexus HID's? if so, i'd actually be interested in a side by side comparo shot of the lexus lights and yours.
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Originally Posted by sebringsilver97coupe
does the IS have stock lexus HID's? if so, i'd actually be interested in a side by side comparo shot of the lexus lights and yours.
I will get a side by side of my 745 vs new HID's this weekend
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