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Old May 20, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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rusty: redline water wetter. You know... I dont know too much about it. I wish Id of thought to ask about it at my last coolant school. I used it in my motocross bikes. I think the simple answer is like aftermarket fuel additives. You just dont need them. But in phoenix??? If you saw temps drop 20 degrees, stick with it!

dwj: That "sludge" is exactly because of low level of coolant. Its not that the dexcool does not do well with vapor/steam, its the parts that dont do well. With conventional green, it lays that protective barrior of silicate to "protect" parts when not covered with coolant itself. With dexcool, there is no silicate to protect the empty parts of the coolant system, so you will get what looks like sludge because the steam is corroding the parts not protected by coolant. But remember, it seems like youd want that "protective" barrior, but you dont because the silicate does much more harm than good.

Also, what kind of coolant reservoir does it have? Never switch to a metal reservoir, as that will cause problems for the same reason. So once again, its vital that the coolant level remains full!
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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just wanted to add that I had a 79 built Z28 that I couldnt get to run where I wanted it to, so I added a bottle of water wetter & temps dropped 11*. Everything in & on the engine was brand new & as a last resort, I tried the above....it worked!
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LO PHAT
Just a thought here. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Let's say that after flushing your radiator and engine twice with the distilled water, you have 100% water in your system. You now drain the radiator and refill it with the 50/50 mix of water and coolant. To make the math simple here, let's assume that half the cooling system's capacity is in the radiator and half the capacity is in the engine block. Now that you have filled your radiator with a 50/50 mix, your entire system is only at a mixture of 25% coolant and not the 50/50 mix that is recommended.

Am I right or wrong here? I have often wondered about this on all of my vehicles and therefore do my system flushes a little differently since I don't like pulling drain plugs on the engine blocks.

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The cooling system is about 12 quarts, of which I get about 8 quarts out by just draining the radiator, which leaves 4 quarts in the block.
You need 6 quarts of coolant for a 50/50 mixture, so the simple thing to do would be to drain out 8 quarts, put back 6 quarts of pure coolant, then top off with water.

What I usually do is just drain out the 8 quarts and put back 8 quarts of 50/50 mixture. I only put back a 50/50 mixture if I have not flushed the system so that the block is 100% water.

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Old May 21, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by swchopper

dwj: That "sludge" is exactly because of low level of coolant. Its not that the dexcool does not do well with vapor/steam, its the parts that dont do well. With conventional green, it lays that protective barrior of silicate to "protect" parts when not covered with coolant itself. With dexcool, there is no silicate to protect the empty parts of the coolant system, so you will get what looks like sludge because the steam is corroding the parts not protected by coolant. But remember, it seems like youd want that "protective" barrior, but you dont because the silicate does much more harm than good.

Also, what kind of coolant reservoir does it have? Never switch to a metal reservoir, as that will cause problems for the same reason. So once again, its vital that the coolant level remains full!
Ok here is the way things went down. 1985 Buick regal V6 200,000 plus miles on a transplanted engine. Went to get a water pump put on it as I did not have time to do it last year. Had green coolant in it all its life. Place that did the work changed pump and added Dexcool to the system after draining old coolant out. Ok so I drive it for 6 months or so. Find small leaks at the hoses so I tighten up and fill the plastic recovery bottle with water for fluid loss. A couple of months later did not see or smell fluid loss (this stuff does not have as strong a smell as Green stuff) Blow a head gasket and notice that fluid was lost and sludge like stuff in the radiator and head jackets. The rest of the system seemed fine no heater core blockage no other stuff I could find. Now it could have been random that the head gasket blew or after changing over to Dexcool this other stuff starts going on.

Anyway I replaced the motor this time and flushed the whole system out again and added the Green stuff again. Car is still in service with my dad and working fine. So any Ideas or comments on this?
Also what do you hear on Evans coolants? The no water type.
Thanks, Don

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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dwjz06
So any Ideas or comments on this?
Maybe the blown head gasket had to do more with a 200,000 mile motor than the Dexcool?
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