[Z06] ZO6 vs Viper GTS
Burning Brakes
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (Power Shifter)
Mine hasen't come yet. What's the bottom line? Ric
02 ZO6 should be .2 seconds faster and a couple of MPH.
These runs were made on a 90 degree day with low baro pressure. They iced down the intakes on both cars before running them and ran back to back alternating cars. They had some trouble with the Z's shifter at the start but got it ironed out. They also said they did not powershift the Viper. They claimed that the "other" magazines don't really test the cars correctly as they do. They also noted that they previously tested a Viper RT/10 and got a 11.77 @ 120 mph out of it on a cooler day.
Not to fret, they are awaiting an 02 ZO6 to test. I would have given them mine for testing sake.
[Modified by Performin Norman, 9:00 PM 10/23/2001]
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (96VIPERGTS)
Its just the eternal problem... I just wish I could afford the Viper... or better yet both.... someday... I will have both but not for a while....
Vettes Rock and Vipers Rock Too....
If its fast and fun......... its either a Vette or a Viper....
If its slow and ugly...... its a Ricer......
Either way a Vette or Viper ... they both rock... its all a matter of preference... The Vipers start out with more power and the owners mod from that point while us Vette owners start lower and work from there.... Either can beat either... it just depends on the day and the car....
To any Viper owners...I highly respect you.... but I will always be chasing your tail.... and thats what keeps it fun....civilized competition between GM and Dodge....Vettes and Vipers....... Its all just about FUN!!!!! :cool:
Vettes Rock and Vipers Rock Too....
If its fast and fun......... its either a Vette or a Viper....
If its slow and ugly...... its a Ricer......
Either way a Vette or Viper ... they both rock... its all a matter of preference... The Vipers start out with more power and the owners mod from that point while us Vette owners start lower and work from there.... Either can beat either... it just depends on the day and the car....
To any Viper owners...I highly respect you.... but I will always be chasing your tail.... and thats what keeps it fun....civilized competition between GM and Dodge....Vettes and Vipers....... Its all just about FUN!!!!! :cool:
Drifting
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (Performin Norman)
These tests are a joke..........how about puttin 450 HP, in the 06, and then we do the tests.......
Less than .5 sec difference now, and Ric, has cut it even lower, as well as Ranger,,,,,,,,,,both with ' 01's.......
Add 20k, in mods, and then you'll be close to equal footing......then we will see who's playing what instrument..........Apples, and Apples guy's....... :yesnod:
Less than .5 sec difference now, and Ric, has cut it even lower, as well as Ranger,,,,,,,,,,both with ' 01's.......
Add 20k, in mods, and then you'll be close to equal footing......then we will see who's playing what instrument..........Apples, and Apples guy's....... :yesnod:
Burning Brakes
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From: Austin, TX
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (ZO6LS6)
These tests are a joke..........how about puttin 450 HP, in the 06, and then we do the tests.......
Less than .5 sec difference now, and Ric, has cut it even lower, as well as Ranger,,,,,,,,,,both with ' 01's.......
Add 20k, in mods, and then you'll be close to equal footing......then we will see who's playing what instrument..........Apples, and Apples guy's....... :yesnod:
Less than .5 sec difference now, and Ric, has cut it even lower, as well as Ranger,,,,,,,,,,both with ' 01's.......
Add 20k, in mods, and then you'll be close to equal footing......then we will see who's playing what instrument..........Apples, and Apples guy's....... :yesnod:
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From: Atlanta GA
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (96VIPERGTS)
Is the 02 Zo6 the first year with 405 hp. If not why would the 02 have .2 sec on the 01?
The '01 Z06's were rated at 385 HP so there is suppose to be a difference in power from '01 to '02. There are some updates they made like a 7% more gripping force on the clutch (to give better grip for the increase in power) and if I'm not mistaken a little more aggressive camshaft but don't quote me on that last part. They also did the airbox differently for '02 on the Z06 and I think they descreened the MAF sensor but I can't remember if that started in '02 or not, it might have been that way in '01 also. I don't know for sure on that last part.
Oh, I also heard they did updates to the suspension in '02 so maybe that helps them hook better off the line. Although I hear the suspension updates that they did were to help it stick to the road better when driving it and also not have the rear end want to come out as easily.
Hope this info helps!
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (Ted J)
TedJ, you are correct.......the screens are gone, most are pushing 355/360's with Halltec's, clutch changed, cam profile changed, intake box cover opened up, suspension for stickier rear on the course.........
One side note, these auto's BOTH the '01''s, & '02"s, are UNDERATED.....in typical(love it GM style)..........my Bone stock '01, is runnning 408 Crank H.P.........and so close to 350 RWHP, BONE stock it ain't funny.......if I added a TRIC, it would put me in the 360+RWHP range......with ZERO other mods.........this is figuring a 15% driveline loss...............
The '02's do not react well to the new intakes, as they breathe much better, and have less restictive exhaust systems........no precats........Sso, be carful making this mod on an '02.......it MAY cost your POWER........ :D
[Modified by ZO6LS6, 2:05 PM 10/24/2001]
One side note, these auto's BOTH the '01''s, & '02"s, are UNDERATED.....in typical(love it GM style)..........my Bone stock '01, is runnning 408 Crank H.P.........and so close to 350 RWHP, BONE stock it ain't funny.......if I added a TRIC, it would put me in the 360+RWHP range......with ZERO other mods.........this is figuring a 15% driveline loss...............
The '02's do not react well to the new intakes, as they breathe much better, and have less restictive exhaust systems........no precats........Sso, be carful making this mod on an '02.......it MAY cost your POWER........ :D
[Modified by ZO6LS6, 2:05 PM 10/24/2001]
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (ZO6LS6)
Um.....
"how bout we put 450hp in the Z06" is not a valid argument. The Z06 and Viper ARE apples to apples.
:rolleyes:
Compare REAL WORLD cars.....not "what ifs".
"how bout we put 450hp in the Z06" is not a valid argument. The Z06 and Viper ARE apples to apples.
:rolleyes:
Compare REAL WORLD cars.....not "what ifs".
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From: Sun Diego CA
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (Ryan Bell)
Z06 vs. Viper again?
Having owned both a 02 Z06 and a 00 Viper GTS, I can tell you from the seat of my pants, the Viper is faster. The Viper just pulls, and it pulls harder than any cars I've owned, that includes a NOS NSX, 996TT and Diablo SV. However, unless you want a hotrod, Viper is not the car to get. Personally, I think it's a POS. I know some owners that sold their cars after a few months of ownership, all for the same reason I did. Anyone wants to buy a 01 Yellow RT/10 w/ 1k miles for less than $63k? I know someone who is as disappointed as me, who wants to get rid of his Viper.
Raymond
Having owned both a 02 Z06 and a 00 Viper GTS, I can tell you from the seat of my pants, the Viper is faster. The Viper just pulls, and it pulls harder than any cars I've owned, that includes a NOS NSX, 996TT and Diablo SV. However, unless you want a hotrod, Viper is not the car to get. Personally, I think it's a POS. I know some owners that sold their cars after a few months of ownership, all for the same reason I did. Anyone wants to buy a 01 Yellow RT/10 w/ 1k miles for less than $63k? I know someone who is as disappointed as me, who wants to get rid of his Viper.
Raymond
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (wiz357)
That's what I've heard too. "Ooh, it looks cool and it's fast!".....that wears off after a while when everything else about it is sub-par. :yesnod:
That's why the Z06 is the better car. Period.
That's why the Z06 is the better car. Period.
Drifting
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From: America
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (Ryan Bell)
Um, Ryan,,,,,,,,,,,how you figure that?
450/v.s./385/405/...........my math is a little fuzzy.....but, seems there is a slight edge...........not to mention Torque............
No "What If's", just the facts ma'am, just the facts....... :yesnod:
450/v.s./385/405/...........my math is a little fuzzy.....but, seems there is a slight edge...........not to mention Torque............
No "What If's", just the facts ma'am, just the facts....... :yesnod:
Burning Brakes
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From: Miami Florida
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (ZO6LS6)
People seem to forget one thing when comparing "peak" power numbers.
The number of 385, 405 gets toss around v.s the 450 Hp for the Vipers..
Don't forget most sotck Vipers dyno at 405-410- RWHP, that is 70-80 RWHP difference on the 06!!!...
The number of 385, 405 gets toss around v.s the 450 Hp for the Vipers..
Don't forget most sotck Vipers dyno at 405-410- RWHP, that is 70-80 RWHP difference on the 06!!!...
Burning Brakes
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From: Austin, TX
Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (xsmph)
People seem to forget one thing when comparing "peak" power numbers. The number of 385, 405 gets toss around v.s the 450 Hp for the Vipers. Don't forget most sotck Vipers dyno at 405-410- RWHP, that is 70-80 RWHP difference on the 06!!!...
xsmph ... I hope you get a Viper for Christmas ... I know it's got to be on the top of your list! :smash:
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Re: ZO6 vs Viper GTS (VetterMan)
The fact is the viper is faster than a Z06 in the 1/4 mi, stock. Stock to Stock or apples to apples. I would love to have a viper to go to the track with, but not as my all around fun driver. Give them the respect thay are due. Ric