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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Hello all. I recently bought a 2001 t/red z06.My old ride was a 1990 c4 convertable. My question: I have put about 2800 miles on it since I got it and have had to add three quarts of oil. It has 42 k on the od. Is this normal? I have had a few beaters in my younger days with leaky oil pans that diden't use this much . I just keep adding oil. Also It sounds like a diesel for a few minutes when I first start it.I paid 28,000 it's flawless. This was a one owner car I got from a dealership. The old owner was the president of our local vette club so I figured this was a well pamperd car. There are no other issues with it. Should I be concerned and take to the dealer or is this just a normal thing?
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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3 quarts within 2800 miles!!! That's a lot! I'm sure you know some 01's have oil consumption issues, most had the re-ring done to solve the problem. Good luck..
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Well I know my '04 Z06 smokes quite a bit and consquently goes thru oil, but that is related to the supercharger that is installed. High rpm and boost forces oil thru the pcv valve. There is a fix for it thow, a pcv oil catch can that installs between the pcv and intake to catch any ACTUAL oil. I just put in an order for one, you might look into it as well.....are you burning the oil or leaking it?


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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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I dont see any smoke when I start it or any oil residue on the back by the pipes....
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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You will find that this is a well documented concern by both owners and GM. Check out the following ([url]http://www.z06vette.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-76522htm)(http://www.idavette.net/hib/02ls6/page5.htm) http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/I...uctions_CC.pdf) (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1582603)

What is your VIN number and the production date (located on the drives door jam)? This is for my own file as I'm finding that late production cars don't have oil consumption issues ( mine is June '01 , which is the last month of production).

GM used to require a monitoring period to verify consumption. My understanding is that the new revision rings (tighter) would be replaced (or even engines) at no charge if one quart was consumed in 1000 miles or if the owner made a big enough stink.

My '01 Z does not use oil between 5000 mile oil changes but I also don't 'hot rod' this car. I also have added a Binks coalescing filter and air/oil separator (they work the same as a oil catch tank, 'cept they work at a more efficient percentage rate).

I do support the use of an oil catch can/tank on any LS1 or LS6 that does use oil as it will reduce the buildup in the intake manifold and valves, plus prolong the life of the O2 sensors and the CATs.

Do you see indications on the rear of the car or in the exhaust tips?

Anyway , its no the end of the world.

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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I have heard that some people had less oil consumption when switching to Amsoil 5/30 or 10/30 oil.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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The vin # is 1GYY125415101300 and I dident find a date code on the door but there is a sticker on the drivers side wheel well under the hood that said campaign 04006A 006 001 do not remove
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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tons of threads on this issue..my 01 uses 1 qt for about 1500 to 1800 mi, depending how i drive it...a lot of decel and downshifting it will use a little more...i trust my DIC when it says a qt low. i add according and go...
the big fix for me.when car was new ..replace the valley cover seal and breather..that took care of most of it..and since i have driven another 40k miles..its been fine...i would only re-ring if its less than 1000 mi/qt..
remember its 6.5 qts full , and then drive till ya get the message in your DIC ,low oil.and then fill the one qt...there is a lot more "fear" and mis information on this issue...than the issue itself IMO..
hope it all works out for you...drop me an email if ya got any more questions, i would be happy to ease your worry...
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Campaign 04006A is the Column Lock recall. It means the car got the latest one done on it. There is a rather lengthy discussion and sticky in the C5 Tech Section on it. Do a Google on campaign 04006A and you can find a GM doc on it.

As noted, the oil burning in the 01 was an issue. Ask the dealer to show you all logged service by GM. You want to see if the re-ring was ever done. Since you say you know who the previous/original owner is. Go talk to him. He may have traded it in because he didn't want to deal with it. Since it is out of warranty the dealer won't do the re-ring for free.

If it's burning oil at that rate and needs a re-ring. Talk to the dealer about them either doing it free of charge or tell them you want them to take the car back. That is excessive oil burning and you should be able to raise hell about it under the Lemon Law. Spending $28K on an 01 Z with 42K/mi is high in my mind.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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That's what I love about this forum , all good advice and information , particulary Bud's responce to replacing the new revision breather ( I, myself had forgotten that possible fix). Then vms4evr advice of checking with the GM dealer for the service history printout.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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$28 k at a dealer is a pretty good price..here in kaliforneia. they are all over the place ,from $23k-$30k depending on mi and condition, and whatever the crazy dealer or stealer decides...he can get away with..
42k is low mileage..mine is 46k and for 6yrs thats about 7k /yr

again ,good luck and i hope ya get all those questions answered..
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The dealer can do a oil consumption test on the car. But it sounds like you have a oil consumption problem. Good luck.
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You claim your VIN is:

1GYY125415101300

If you can't even get your VIN number correct ... there is little chance Chevy (GM) is gonna help you ....

The number HAS TO START with 1G1YY ...

And there HAS to be an "S" imbedded in the number someplace (assuming you have a Z06) ... so are you a troll ??? or just incredibly dislexic ?????

The GM "limit" for an "oil burner" is one quart every 1,000 miles. If the car uses more than that, GM considers it as "eligable" for a re-ring. Given that you are not the original owner (you say in your OP "I recently bought a 2001 t/red z06") I kinda doubt GM is gonna do anything to help you out.

The only thing I can recommend to you at this point is:

A) Get your facts together ... correct VIN .... original paperwork on when the car was bought .... why did the original owner not address the issue of "oil burning" ... or if they did (again paper work helps) why did the "fix" not work" ????

B) Be polite and PROFESSIONAL with the folks at the GM "Customer Service" hotline. My experience is that if you give them a "reasonable" case. they will work with you to fix the problem. Does this mean GM will pay EVERYTHING ???? Probably not at this point in time. On the other hand, maybe they will pay some part of the work to fix the problem

Ultimately, is it cheaper to just pour oil into the engine ?? It might be. See what GM will offer and decide from there what you want to do. At a few dollars a quart, unless you want to keep the car forever, it may now just be cheaper to replace oil than have the engine rebuilt.

See what GM offers on "fixing" the engine ... maybe they will still do it. Only way to find out is to call them ... but give them GOOD information ... not a VIN that is clearly wrong.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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yea I got the vin# wrong in my post. No Im not a troll thank you! I just made a mistake. the correct vin # is 1G1YY12S415101300 thanks for your concern ,The California Kid...........
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06
You claim your VIN is:

1GYY125415101300

If you can't even get your VIN number correct ... there is little chance Chevy (GM) is gonna help you ....

The number HAS TO START with 1G1YY ...

And there HAS to be an "S" imbedded in the number someplace (assuming you have a Z06) ... so are you a troll ??? or just incredibly dislexic ?????

The GM "limit" for an "oil burner" is one quart every 1,000 miles. If the car uses more than that, GM considers it as "eligable" for a re-ring. Given that you are not the original owner (you say in your OP "I recently bought a 2001 t/red z06") I kinda doubt GM is gonna do anything to help you out.

The only thing I can recommend to you at this point is:

A) Get your facts together ... correct VIN .... original paperwork on when the car was bought .... why did the original owner not address the issue of "oil burning" ... or if they did (again paper work helps) why did the "fix" not work" ????

B) Be polite and PROFESSIONAL with the folks at the GM "Customer Service" hotline. My experience is that if you give them a "reasonable" case. they will work with you to fix the problem. Does this mean GM will pay EVERYTHING ???? Probably not at this point in time. On the other hand, maybe they will pay some part of the work to fix the problem

Ultimately, is it cheaper to just pour oil into the engine ?? It might be. See what GM will offer and decide from there what you want to do. At a few dollars a quart, unless you want to keep the car forever, it may now just be cheaper to replace oil than have the engine rebuilt.

See what GM offers on "fixing" the engine ... maybe they will still do it. Only way to find out is to call them ... but give them GOOD information ... not a VIN that is clearly wrong.
I agree with you. He needs to be polite and professional--and avoid the use of words like "just incredibly dislexic (sic)."

Hopefully, he will also spell his words right.

Don't take my post personally. I have not had a chance to beat anyone else up recently.
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06
You claim your VIN is:

1GYY125415101300

If you can't even get your VIN number correct ... there is little chance Chevy (GM) is gonna help you ....

The number HAS TO START with 1G1YY ...

And there HAS to be an "S" imbedded in the number someplace (assuming you have a Z06) ... so are you a troll ??? or just incredibly dislexic ?????

The GM "limit" for an "oil burner" is one quart every 1,000 miles. If the car uses more than that, GM considers it as "eligable" for a re-ring. Given that you are not the original owner (you say in your OP "I recently bought a 2001 t/red z06") I kinda doubt GM is gonna do anything to help you out.

The only thing I can recommend to you at this point is:

A) Get your facts together ... correct VIN .... original paperwork on when the car was bought .... why did the original owner not address the issue of "oil burning" ... or if they did (again paper work helps) why did the "fix" not work" ????

B) Be polite and PROFESSIONAL with the folks at the GM "Customer Service" hotline. My experience is that if you give them a "reasonable" case. they will work with you to fix the problem. Does this mean GM will pay EVERYTHING ???? Probably not at this point in time. On the other hand, maybe they will pay some part of the work to fix the problem

Ultimately, is it cheaper to just pour oil into the engine ?? It might be. See what GM will offer and decide from there what you want to do. At a few dollars a quart, unless you want to keep the car forever, it may now just be cheaper to replace oil than have the engine rebuilt.

See what GM offers on "fixing" the engine ... maybe they will still do it. Only way to find out is to call them ... but give them GOOD information ... not a VIN that is clearly wrong.
Take it easy, people make mistakes. I doubt everyone in California are perfect!
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Originally Posted by rockerdudez06
Hello all. I recently bought a 2001 t/red z06.My old ride was a 1990 c4 convertable. My question: I have put about 2800 miles on it since I got it and have had to add three quarts of oil. It has 42 k on the od. Is this normal? I have had a few beaters in my younger days with leaky oil pans that diden't use this much . I just keep adding oil. Also It sounds like a diesel for a few minutes when I first start it.I paid 28,000 it's flawless. This was a one owner car I got from a dealership. The old owner was the president of our local vette club so I figured this was a well pamperd car. There are no other issues with it. Should I be concerned and take to the dealer or is this just a normal thing?
Do a search on valley seals leaking. Some later Z06's burn oil because its getting piped back into the throttle body. It may not be a ring problem. A friend with a 04 Z uses a Mobil 1 quart bottle as a catch can and recovers all the oil the engine is loosing.
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