View Poll Results: H/C or SC?
H/C- It's not as bad a job as it seems
8
24.24%
SC- You will never regret it
16
48.48%
Leave it be, it's fast enough
9
27.27%
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Melting Slicks
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H/C or SC?
Ok, I am starting to think about going to a P1SC system. I was going to go heads/cam, but thinking s/c might be better. I have pretty much much convinced myself, but the one thing holding me back is wear and tear on the engine. I won't be racing the car, but I am sure my foot will get heavy a time or two.
To what extent does the added boost affect the life of the engine?
*Edit* Crap....Screwed up the thread title
To what extent does the added boost affect the life of the engine?
*Edit* Crap....Screwed up the thread title
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Look at it this way. The effect a H/C has on an engine is always there, even at idle (even if it is less). An S/C only effects the engine when in boost.
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I just went through a 6 month final decision and s/c I did.My problem was I love cam,but s/c is way more streetable and it's always there when you want. You will never know it's there until.Call E.C.S. you won't get a more honest explanation on both options.
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I was thinking maybe eventually doing both. I figured if I start with cam and heads, I have to use a combo that would work with an S/C and they may not work well without it. If I go SC first, I can use it on my stock motor and when I am ready to do h/c I can get them to match. Not sure that made any sense, but you get the point i think.
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Melting Slicks
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I basically have two cars that I will be switching between as daily drivers, but the vette will probably be used more( I like it more). I don;t street race or race at the track, but I do some spirited driving and love a good accel from a stop. I guess bragging rights falls in there somewhere as well.
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An Honest Man.
Most of us do performance mods for bragging rights and because we are enthusiusts.
I did a conservative NA set up on mine (see sig) I very rarley use the power I have but NOW I want more primarily because I enjoy the modding process and for me I get as much satisfaction in doing the job as I do in actually having the mod completed. It's a hobby for me.
That said I would do the S/C.
You get more bang for you buck in bragging rights for sure and it is also a easier to de-mod if you decide to sell the Vette
Most of us do performance mods for bragging rights and because we are enthusiusts.
I did a conservative NA set up on mine (see sig) I very rarley use the power I have but NOW I want more primarily because I enjoy the modding process and for me I get as much satisfaction in doing the job as I do in actually having the mod completed. It's a hobby for me.
That said I would do the S/C.
You get more bang for you buck in bragging rights for sure and it is also a easier to de-mod if you decide to sell the Vette
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St. Jude Donor '07
I have a HEADS and CAM car and I have been driving it for over a year and a half. Key was a good tune, took forever to find someone that "really" knew what they were doing, but the car is very FUN now. I often wonder why I didn't go SC, but I love the lopey CAM sound and the fact is, the power is there all the time.
I really want a SC and may add it to my current setup and run a low psi in the boost department. Honestly, if the car is tuned correctly and you upgrade the appropriate supporting components (springs/pushrods, etc.) you will be fine.
BTW, one of the most satisfying things about my NA setup is having a complete stranger tells me how great the car sounds and it is just idling.
Best of luck in your decision,
Micah
I really want a SC and may add it to my current setup and run a low psi in the boost department. Honestly, if the car is tuned correctly and you upgrade the appropriate supporting components (springs/pushrods, etc.) you will be fine.
BTW, one of the most satisfying things about my NA setup is having a complete stranger tells me how great the car sounds and it is just idling.
Best of luck in your decision,
Micah
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The sound is definitely the downside to S/C. I like the sound of good lopey cam and is the main reason I would go Heads and cam rather than supercharging. The S/C will be easier to install and uninstall(if needed) ad I can do it myself. I could probably do the heads and cam myself, but I wouldn't be comfortable with it.
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St. Jude Donor '06
The sound is definitely the downside to S/C. I like the sound of good lopey cam and is the main reason I would go Heads and cam rather than supercharging. The S/C will be easier to install and uninstall(if needed) ad I can do it myself. I could probably do the heads and cam myself, but I wouldn't be comfortable with it.
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I would go with the SC, hands down. I have a heads/cam in my car..I am happy with the way it turned out..however you can make a lot more power with a SC AND the big key is, it will not effect drivability as much as a heads/cam car will.
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
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S/C it. If I had it to do over again with my 04 GTO I would have just gone with a Maggie and just be done with it. It's a instant 100+ hp. Plus you could always go H/C later
Go to a good tuner and get a dyno tune the canned tunes that come with the S/C packages leave some hp on the table.
Go to a good tuner and get a dyno tune the canned tunes that come with the S/C packages leave some hp on the table.
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You can still get the lopey sound just while you at iddle and not at boost, but I cant say enough hown much I love the sound when that bad boy spools! but then again a stock LS7 sounds pretty nice too at WOT under a load (20-120 on an on ramp) I don't know man what are your prioraties ttl power/$$$? Is money no object and you just want the most power, or is it an all around choice? If I had the coin I'd put a blower on mine without a question, as well as a built transmission and rear diff.
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Melting Slicks
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I would go with the SC, hands down. I have a heads/cam in my car..I am happy with the way it turned out..however you can make a lot more power with a SC AND the big key is, it will not effect drivability as much as a heads/cam car will.
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
The kit I am looking at is actually a large front mount IC. He says he had the fans kick on earlier and used a 160 themostat and was fine.
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St. Jude Donor '07
I would go with the SC, hands down. I have a heads/cam in my car..I am happy with the way it turned out..however you can make a lot more power with a SC AND the big key is, it will not effect drivability as much as a heads/cam car will.
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
The SC really only effects the drivability when in boost..so otherwise your drivability is stock. The only other thing I can think of with the SC, is heat soak..the SC cars do tend to run a lot hotter than head/cam cars..that just the nature of the beast.
Like with everything though, the Tune is the key. GO SC
with the bolded area.If I bought a SC setup I would (and I am thinking), the KENNE BELL setup is looking pretty SWEEEEEET!