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Old 08-14-2007, 09:54 AM
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I have iforged 3 piece high polished wheels on a vette I just purchased.

They need a good cleaning and I am considering powder coating the center section.

Has anyone taken apart these wheels to do this?

Called iforged and they don't seem too keen on it. I can't see what the problem would be.

I would appreciate some suggestions.
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I asked the same questions and got the same answers. I only found 1 place that was willing to take them apart and re-seal them and it wasnt cheap to have it done.

Iforged customer service is pretty much worthless once you own their wheels.
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Originally Posted by cbruer
I have iforged 3 piece high polished wheels on a vette I just purchased.

They need a good cleaning and I am considering powder coating the center section.

Has anyone taken apart these wheels to do this?

Called iforged and they don't seem too keen on it. I can't see what the problem would be.

I would appreciate some suggestions.
Check with your powder coater with regard to masking areas you don't want painted. There may be a method now that will withstand the heat.
I would not recommend taking the wheels apart. You could wind up with some runout/warpage issues if you don't have the ability to re-torque fasteners very precisely and do it in a very particular pattern as well; not to mention any air leak issues when re-sealing.
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I guess I don't understand what would have to be resealed.

The valve stem runs through to the inner piece and would not be affected. It looks to me as the center spoke section would just come out if the bolts are taken out. That is all that would be getting powder coated.

Torq could be an issue but I would think with care it could be done.
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It depends on which brand of 3 pc wheel you have. I have CCW 3pc street wheels on mine and yes thay can be taken apart. Re sealing them is not a problem. After you take them apart if any of the parts were replaced then that wheel needs to be re balanced. I personally think that the CCW 3 pc wheels are great! If you ding or scrape a wheel you can replace the outer rim portion and be back to new again. Try that one with a 1 pc wheel!
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It's not that hard to do but having the correct tools helps alot. I made some wheel repair video's for our customers that bent an inner, outer, etc. and wanted to fix them at the house/shop. Should help you in weither you want to tackle it yourself or not; http://www.ccwheel.com/files/technical.php

When they paint/powder coat the centers make sure the center bore, pad, and mating surface to the wheel shells on the wheel centers are masked to insure 100& fitment.
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Originally Posted by ccdan
It's not that hard to do but having the correct tools helps alot. I made some wheel repair video's for our customers that bent an inner, outer, etc. and wanted to fix them at the house/shop. Should help you in weither you want to tackle it yourself or not; http://www.ccwheel.com/files/technical.php

When they paint/powder coat the centers make sure the center bore, pad, and mating surface to the wheel shells on the wheel centers are masked to insure 100& fitment.
Sweet videos Dan! I'm sure that will help many guys .

BTW, my son graduated from Embry-Riddle. I was in Daytona several times during those years to see him and had no idea you guys are there.

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Originally Posted by ccdan
It's not that hard to do but having the correct tools helps alot. I made some wheel repair video's for our customers that bent an inner, outer, etc. and wanted to fix them at the house/shop. Should help you in weither you want to tackle it yourself or not; http://www.ccwheel.com/files/technical.php

When they paint/powder coat the centers make sure the center bore, pad, and mating surface to the wheel shells on the wheel centers are masked to insure 100& fitment.


excellent videos, but do you think that the same holds true for Iforged wheels which im told uses the HRE lips and barrel?


the bolt head is more of a star shape than the ccw classics.
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Originally Posted by ccdan
It's not that hard to do but having the correct tools helps alot. I made some wheel repair video's for our customers that bent an inner, outer, etc. and wanted to fix them at the house/shop.
Excellent! And thank you for sharing a how-to video for all 3 piece wheel owners!!!!!
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Sounds like you are not aware of one very important fact. Iforged 3 piece wheels have a silicone seal...that is what prevents air from leaking out of the 3 pieces once mounted. Look closely at one of their wheels with the tire removed...you will see the silicone bead. Simply mechanically fastening the the two halves together is not enough to 100% prevent air leakage.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
Sounds like you are not aware of one very important fact. Iforged 3 piece wheels have a silicone seal...that is what prevents air from leaking out of the 3 pieces once mounted. Look closely at one of their wheels with the tire removed...you will see the silicone bead. Simply mechanically fastening the the two halves together is not enough to 100% prevent air leakage.

in the videos, dan uses silicone to seal the wheel.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
Sounds like you are not aware of one very important fact. Iforged 3 piece wheels have a silicone seal...that is what prevents air from leaking out of the 3 pieces once mounted. Look closely at one of their wheels with the tire removed...you will see the silicone bead. Simply mechanically fastening the the two halves together is not enough to 100% prevent air leakage.
Our wheels use a silicone seal also. Once it is dry however you can remove the center without breaking the seal on the wheel. Just make sure the tire is removed or all the air is out of the tire before removing the center.

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Originally Posted by jittrbugg
Our wheels use a silicone seal also. Once it is dry however you can remove the center without breaking the seal on the wheel. Just make sure the tire is removed or all the air is out of the tire before removing the center.

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I have taken my CCW classics apart few times !
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I have taken my CCW classics apart few times !
Me too ... Bought the CCW classic and the previous owner managed to bend the outer lips just 1 day before picking them up so we gotta replace the outer lips ... and they got leaked so have to take them apart again
The hardest part to clean up the old silicone.

-Mike
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Originally Posted by mike76002
Me too ... Bought the CCW classic and the previous owner managed to bend the outer lips just 1 day before picking them up so we gotta replace the outer lips ... and they got leaked so have to take them apart again
The hardest part to clean up the old silicone.

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Looks like I recognized the cleaning attachment he was using in the video as being available from Eastwood. Probably other places too.
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Hey guys! Sorry was out sick yesturday; doctors...blah! Anyways, these video's should work for any 3pc wheel. I know there may be a few steps that would be different as I've seen some BBS and Fikse wheels that have the studs build into the center so of course they don't have bolts. Things like that. As far as the star shaped bolts; it will be exactly the same. On our track version wheels we use a standard grade 8 nut but on the street version the ARP stainless bolts have the start pattern and both get torqued at the same rate.

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