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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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had a bit of bad luck while leaving funfest saturday. me and some of the guys in my club were doing some spirited driving on the way home when i down-shift into the wrong gear and hit the rev-limiter really hard!(ouch) after that the car started to hesitate and backfire a bit at low rpm. also its very loud and sounds weird when i try to start it. so,as soon as i got off the highway it cut off and wouldnt start back up without me keeping my foot on the gas. i made it home so now its in my garage and im trying to figure out whats wrong before i take it to the shop and get screwed. a buddy of mine thinks i bent an exhaust valve. if anybody has any advice on what they think this may be i would appreciate it.

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4got to mention it wiil not idle without my foot on the gas
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Sounds like a transmission/clutch issue to me. A bent exhaust? That sounds difficult to believe.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Sorry about your bad luck. I think I saw your car at the Funfest, beautiful I might add.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Sorry to hear about the problem. Not sure exactly what it might be. Hope you can get it fixed without spending a fortune.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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I would PM one of the tuners here, like Cajundude, or EnglandGreen or Doug@ECS.
They can probalby provide the best advice...
You might have done as little as blow out your high flow cats which changes backpressure and sound or done some more serious damage...
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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This is what I think. I hope I'm wrong.

You either bent a Valve (when the Valve hit the piston) and/or broke a Valve Spring. My bet is bent valve.

When you over rev, the valves float. (that means they do not return to the fully seated position before the piston comes up). This is common on engines that have a higher miles and the valve springs have weakened over time.

Do NOT try to start or drive the Vette. If you keep trying to run it you will break the valve, it will drop into the cylinder and do more damage.

If you're lucky the piston was not damaged and you'll get by with just repairing/changing the heads.

Do a Compression test. You can also pull the valve covers to inspect for visible damage.

Good Luck

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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I agree with pulling the valve covers. Check for valves stuck or jammed. When you hit the rev limiter in the PCM, I think it kills the fuel only, but I'm not sure. Its going to be difficult to do a compression test without turning the engine over but you might try something simple...have someone manually turn it over at the crank while you are putting a finger over each spark plug hole. If one or more doesn't have any pressure, you know where to start.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Good luck with the repair

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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
This is what I think. I hope I'm wrong.

You either bent a Valve (when the Valve hit the piston) and/or broke a Valve Spring. My bet is bent valve.

When you over rev, the valves float. (that means they do not return to the fully seated position before the piston comes up). This is common on engines that have a higher miles and the valve springs have weakened over time.

Do NOT try to start or drive the Vette. If you keep trying to run it you will break the valve, it will drop into the cylinder and do more damage.

If you're lucky the piston was not damaged and you'll get by with just repairing/changing the heads.

Do a Compression test. You can also pull the valve covers to inspect for visible damage.

Good Luck
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Could have bent a pushrod also. Very least pull the valve covers and check the springs out. Not a bad idea to pull the pushrods out one by one and check them. If the springs and pushrods look fine then you'll have to pull the heads and check the valves. Chances are that if you bent a valve there would also be pushrod or spring damage though. Good Luck!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
This is what I think. I hope I'm wrong.

You either bent a Valve (when the Valve hit the piston) and/or broke a Valve Spring. My bet is bent valve.

When you over rev, the valves float. (that means they do not return to the fully seated position before the piston comes up). This is common on engines that have a higher miles and the valve springs have weakened over time.

Do NOT try to start or drive the Vette. If you keep trying to run it you will break the valve, it will drop into the cylinder and do more damage.

If you're lucky the piston was not damaged and you'll get by with just repairing/changing the heads.

Do a Compression test. You can also pull the valve covers to inspect for visible damage.

Good Luck
or possibly bent rod Hope I'm wrong. I would not drive or try and start it either without pulling the valve covers and checking.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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A fellow club member just did the same thing and bent lots of valves.
He had all the valves replaced and took the sharp edges off the piston tops.
Runs like new.
Hope it didn't do more damage than that, pull the heads and see what's up.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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That sucks.....But my guess would be valves as well...and I would say it's more than just one.....Let's hope you didnt mess up the pistons here.....Guess the positive out look on this all is you can always upgrade once you find out what you tore up....
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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thanks guys for all the advice. im starting to think it is a bent valve hopefully thats it and i didnt damage the piston! i'm gonna start working on it in the morning.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Pull the engine covers off (whatever they're called) and start the car. Grab a long screwdriver and put it up to the valve covers one by one. When you do that, put your ear up against the screw driver. If there is something wrong with the valve train you will feel & hear it.

A compression check will instantly clue you in....

At least you didn't drop a valve. That would make an aweful racket. I also don't think that a valve spring broke because that probably would have caused the valve to drop.

Did you get a code or check engine light? Chances are that you would get a weird code for a cylinder that has lost pressure.

Good luck!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Ouch, good luck with the repair.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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Hey man, I'm back on the forum! Did you check out the pictures of the burning stingray on 70. That is a ugly picture, I wonder who the people are? Anyway Good Luck on the repair work.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by molten vett
thanks guys for all the advice. im starting to think it is a bent valve hopefully thats it and i didnt damage the piston! i'm gonna start working on it in the morning.
Do follow up and let us know what you ultimately find. Good Luck.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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i didnt get a check engine light until i got home cut it off and started it back up.

whats up flk-jr bout time you got back on here. and yeah i saw that post about the burning vett,man thats gotta suck
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