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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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[QUOTE=nickolbag;1562079033]
Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
All theres is, is a LS7 clutch./QUOTE]

Not quite. You would be a fool to think that. Do you think just an ls7 clutch is going to handle RobZ's launches? Not likely. I don't have to ask his about his clutch, I have one myself. It does use the stock slave and master but if it can hold as well the aftermarkets then who cares. I got it for its ability to perform, not to put a part in that I can say is a "performance part".
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 528rwhp02Zo6

*Also your screen name is awesome I got a good laugh when I saw it
My screen name? Meaningless I tell ya, I swear.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nickolbag
Not quite. You would be a fool to think that. Do you think just an ls7 clutch is going to handle RobZ's launches? Not likely. I don't have to ask his about his clutch, I have one myself. It does use the stock slave and master but if it can hold as well the aftermarkets then who cares. I got it for its ability to perform, not to put a part in that I can say is a "performance part".
First of all, Rob just had the clutch put in and why dont you ask him. Because I was at the track with him on Sunday after it was put in, so just because it took 2 or 3 launchs doesnt mean it will last too long or not slip.I could be mistaken, but it didnt seem like he was extremely satisfied with the clutch. When I was up there at cartek, they told me that they used the LS7 clutch in a lot of Z's. BTW, did you put the clutch in, to see that it wasnt a LS7 clutch. Unless, I guess cartek now is designing,testing and selling there own brand of clutch. At the shop, I didnt see any machines for making clutches, pressure plates, throw-out bearings,etc. Also, I only go on what I was told fro other. Personally, Ive never even seen the cluthc, so I could be WAY OFF. Your probably right though. PM Robz and see what he thinks. Im actually really curious now of what the Cartek clutch actually is.Ive seen the website and what they say it is, but has anyone actually seen the clutch before putting it in to verify it is not a LS7 clutch and/or pressure plate. And also, lets face it, none of us are putting these parts in to tell our friends we have a "performance part." We put in what works and if the factory Z clutch could handle the power that most of us are puttin down, then beleive me, A lot of us guys would be keeping the stock clutch. But hey if the clutch works good for you, then theres no argument, you got the right clutch for your application. I first went with spec and was unsatisfied. Then drove a friends car with a centerforce that made big power and I liked it. It worked, so I put it in. Not because it was a popular name.

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
Unless, I guess cartek now is designing,testing and selling there own brand of clutch. At the shop, I didnt see any machines for making clutches, pressure plates, throw-out bearings,etc. Also, I only go on what I was told fro other. Personally, Ive never even seen the cluthc, so I could be WAY OFF.
hahaha do you really think they produce thier clutches IN HOUSE
I'm sure they have a company manufacture the disc(s) and/or PP to their specs, they don't do the actual "making" of the clutch in there shop... thats a good one.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
I could be mistaken, but it didnt seem like he was extremely satisfied with the clutch.
That sounds like Rob
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysInBoost
hahaha do you really think they produce thier clutches IN HOUSE
I'm sure they have a company manufacture the disc(s) and/or PP to their specs, they don't do the actual "making" of the clutch in there shop... thats a good one.
Obviously your not understanding the point that im trying to get across. I know they dont make it in shop. But centerforce does. And so does spec, and exedy. I still havent heard an answer though to my discussion. The proof. So what you guys are telling me is that " I have a Cartek clutch and thats all I know about it." I dont know where it comes from, who actually produces the clutch that cartek is putting there name on. I think ill start up a clutch company and use spec clutches but tell then that there nightmare clutches. All i want to know is what the clutch is. Is that what Cartek tol you, is that they give there so called specs to a shop to manufacture a clutch speciffically for them. ? Just curious."I'm sure they have a company manufacture the disc(s) and/or PP to their specs," or could it be that they are using the LS7 clutch as I heard. Dont know,,,,you tell me.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
Obviously your not understanding the point that im trying to get across. I know they dont make it in shop. But centerforce does. And so does spec, and exedy. I still havent heard an answer though to my discussion. The proof. So what you guys are telling me is that " I have a Cartek clutch and thats all I know about it." I dont know where it comes from, who actually produces the clutch that cartek is putting there name on. I think ill start up a clutch company and use spec clutches but tell then that there nightmare clutches. All i want to know is what the clutch is. Is that what Cartek tol you, is that they give there so called specs to a shop to manufacture a clutch speciffically for them. ? Just curious."I'm sure they have a company manufacture the disc(s) and/or PP to their specs," or could it be that they are using the LS7 clutch as I heard. Dont know,,,,you tell me.
CARTEK does not manufacture their clutch in house, they are not a manufacturing company. Instead they design the clutch using years of know how and customer feedback. Then they take that design to a trusted manufacturer that makes mostly heavy industrial clutches for large machinery such as Tractors, bulldozers and so on. The manufacturer has no ties to Spec, Tex, Exedy, McLoud, Centerforce or any other LS1 clutch manufacturer.

CARTEK provides the information on pressures, materials, geometry, and other design specifications to their manufacturer.

They have been doing this for many years. I have used their clutches in my car for 5 years now, and will never use another.

Their latest clutch was designed using knowledge obtained from the LS7 clutch and flywheel assemblies, making it the same size in order to work on LS1 LS6 LS2 LS3 and LS7 powered cars. They do reuse the LS7 flywheel if you choose to go with the LS7 style clutch instead of an LS1/6 style. That is where the similarities end.

If CARTEK uses a LS7 clutch, how come I am able to dump it at 7000rpm and power shift 508HP down the track over and over and over without any overheating or slippage issues?

You're right, you don't know. So please......
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
First of all, Rob just had the clutch put in and why dont you ask him. Because I was at the track with him on Sunday after it was put in, so just because it took 2 or 3 launchs doesnt mean it will last too long or not slip.I could be mistaken, but it didnt seem like he was extremely satisfied with the clutch.
Well lets, see. After I broke in the clutch I put more then 50 passes on it in 2 months without a single missed shift, without a single slip and without a single problem. So I guess it lasts? The previous versions lasted close to 200 passes and 2 years in my car. Also about 30K Miles on the first and 15K Miles on the second

Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
When I was up there at cartek, they told me that they used the LS7 clutch in a lot of Z's. BTW, did you put the clutch in, to see that it wasnt a LS7 clutch.
LS7 Style: Yes
LS7 Clutch: No

Learn to listen…

Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
Unless, I guess cartek now is designing,testing and selling there own brand of clutch.
Well they designed it, I personally tested it in my car before it became available to sale.

Originally Posted by NightmareZ06
.Ive seen the website and what they say it is, but has anyone actually seen the clutch before putting it in to verify it is not a LS7 clutch and/or pressure plate.
I have seen the clutch that went into my car, and actually helped install it as I used to hang out at the shop a lot before I recently started working full time this fall. No, it is not an LS7 clutch. They used a resurfaced LS7 flywheel in my car, but not an LS7 clutch.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexV
CARTEK does not manufacture their clutch in house, they are not a manufacturing company. Instead they design the clutch using years of know how and customer feedback. Then they take that design to a trusted manufacturer that makes mostly heavy industrial clutches for large machinery such as Tractors, bulldozers and so on. The manufacturer has no ties to Spec, Tex, Exedy, McLoud, Centerforce or any other LS1 clutch manufacturer.

CARTEK provides the information on pressures, materials, geometry, and other design specifications to their manufacturer.

They have been doing this for many years. I have used their clutches in my car for 5 years now, and will never use another.

Their latest clutch was designed using knowledge obtained from the LS7 clutch and flywheel assemblies, making it the same size in order to work on LS1 LS6 LS2 LS3 and LS7 powered cars. They do reuse the LS7 flywheel if you choose to go with the LS7 style clutch instead of an LS1/6 style. That is where the similarities end.

If CARTEK uses a LS7 clutch, how come I am able to dump it at 7000rpm and power shift 508HP down the track over and over and over without any overheating or slippage issues?

You're right, you don't know. So please......
Originally Posted by AlexV
Well lets, see. After I broke in the clutch I put more then 50 passes on it in 2 months without a single missed shift, without a single slip and without a single problem. So I guess it lasts? The previous versions lasted close to 200 passes and 2 years in my car. Also about 30K Miles on the first and 15K Miles on the second


LS7 Style: Yes
LS7 Clutch: No

Learn to listen…


Well they designed it, I personally tested it in my car before it became available to sale.



I have seen the clutch that went into my car, and actually helped install it as I used to hang out at the shop a lot before I recently started working full time this fall. No, it is not an LS7 clutch. They used a resurfaced LS7 flywheel in my car, but not an LS7 clutch.

Wow, thats a lot of info!!! I hope that is enough info to tell everyone what common sense already should have.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Ask anyone making real power in their car, whether it be a highly modified C5 or a C6Z06, if they drag their cars, the LS7 clutch sucks!

Trust me, I unfortunately put one in my car. The thing started sticking to the floor the first 1000 miles, and it was bled twice. The Cartek clutch is light years ahead of the LS7. No comparison.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hardcore
Ask anyone making real power in their car, whether it be a highly modified C5 or a C6Z06, if they drag their cars, the LS7 clutch sucks!

Trust me, I unfortunately put one in my car. The thing started sticking to the floor the first 1000 miles, and it was bled twice. The Cartek clutch is light years ahead of the LS7. No comparison.
The logical person would come up with that same exact conclusion. But it would appear as though NightmareZ06 is having a hard time adding 2 and 2 together.

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