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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Oh, I don't know...maybe "disaster" is too strong a word, but it feels like it. I'm vetteless for the weekend.

This morning I got in, backed halfway down the drive and it died. Turned around and down at the bottom it had the dreaded message, "Remove key, wait ten seconds".

Well, I tried that a couple of times and each time, it cranked fine but as soon as I put it in gear, it stopped almost immediately with it telling me, "Service Column Lock".

So now my baby sits in the garage waiting for the tow truck Monday morning to take it to the stealership. It's had the GM fix, but because it's a 98, I didn't want to take the chance of installing the kit. the early years do funny things sometimes when people have installed that kit.

Anyone have ideas on what I can do to get her going again?

BTW, the steering wheel isn't locked. It just won't keep running.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Bring the ignition to On, clear your DTC codes.

1) Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.

2) Press the "RESET" button to turn off any warning messages

3) Press and hold "OPTIONS"

4) While holding "OPTIONS", press "FUEL" four times within a 10-second period.

Initially, on-board diagnostics go into an "Automatic Mode" which shows diagnostic codes in a pre-set sequence: PCM - TCS - RTD - BCM - IPC - RADIO - HVAC - LDCM - RDCM - SCM - RFA. All codes will be displayed for each module. If none are present in a given module, you will see "No More Codes" on the display.

To exit the diagnostic mode at any time, press "E/M". If you want to erase codes in a given module, press "RESET".

To reset the codes once in manual mode, press and hold "RESET" until it displays "NO CODES". Press "OPTIONS" to go to the next module. Repeat the steps until you have reset the codes in all the computer modules.

Key back off, remove fuse #25 and wait 10 minutes before re-installing it.

Install the fuse, bring key back to On and all messages should be cleared as well as the fuel cut-off. If you still have problems repeat the above except this time remove fuses #25 and #29 for 10 minutes. Repeat again and it should be good to go.

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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Oh, I don't know...maybe "disaster" is too strong a word, but it feels like it. I'm vetteless for the weekend.

This morning I got in, backed halfway down the drive and it died. Turned around and down at the bottom it had the dreaded message, "Remove key, wait ten seconds".

Well, I tried that a couple of times and each time, it cranked fine but as soon as I put it in gear, it stopped almost immediately with it telling me, "Service Column Lock".

So now my baby sits in the garage waiting for the tow truck Monday morning to take it to the stealership. It's had the GM fix, but because it's a 98, I didn't want to take the chance of installing the kit. the early years do funny things sometimes when people have installed that kit.

Anyone have ideas on what I can do to get her going again?

BTW, the steering wheel isn't locked. It just won't keep running.

When did the dealership do the fix?

You pulled the key all the way out of the ignition and waited at least 5 sec and tried again with same result?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Call GM Customer Service and annoy the living daylights out of them! I kept bugging them over and over again until they fixed it correctly!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Where did you get this info ?

(Key back off, remove fuse #25 and wait 10 minutes before re-installing it.
Install the fuse, bring key back to On and all messages should be cleared as well as the fuel cut-off. If you still have problems repeat the above except this time remove fuses #25 and #29 for 10 minutes. Repeat again and it should be good to go)

I ask because I have been dealing with this for several weeks since installing the CLB. No recalls have been done to my Vette and it is also a 98. I have done everything you mention plus other things but get the "pull key wait 10 sec" everytime my car sits for over 10 -15 min. The only thing I did not do was leave the fuses out for 10 min.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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It is included with the procedures to install the column lock bypass module. The print from the site has info on just #25 and the single sheet included with the module describes both #25 and #29.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet-Jock
It is included with the procedures to install the column lock bypass module. The print from the site has info on just #25 and the single sheet included with the module describes both #25 and #29.
Thanks,

I did not get this info with mine from Corvettes-of-Houston.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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That's who I got mine from so, not sure why you didn't. They also have info on their site but it only mentions #25.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Oh, I don't know...maybe "disaster" is too strong a word, but it feels like it. I'm vetteless for the weekend.

This morning I got in, backed halfway down the drive and it died. Turned around and down at the bottom it had the dreaded message, "Remove key, wait ten seconds".

Well, I tried that a couple of times and each time, it cranked fine but as soon as I put it in gear, it stopped almost immediately with it telling me, "Service Column Lock".

So now my baby sits in the garage waiting for the tow truck Monday morning to take it to the stealership. It's had the GM fix, but because it's a 98, I didn't want to take the chance of installing the kit. the early years do funny things sometimes when people have installed that kit.

Anyone have ideas on what I can do to get her going again?

BTW, the steering wheel isn't locked. It just won't keep running.
I am betting a faulty k harness....thanks GM!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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should of got the CLB or bought a Canadian Vette
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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should of got the CLB or bought a Canadian Vette
Buying a Canadian Vette might be a good idea but I'm still scared to install that CLB Zilla. Those things don't like 98 models.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Buying a Canadian Vette might be a good idea but I'm still scared to install that CLB Zilla. Those things don't like 98 models.
It might be worth a try, you can always uninstall it. I think the real problem is the GM "fix" reprogrammed your computer which is causing the fuel cut off. Keep us posted, good luck!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Oh, I don't know...maybe "disaster" is too strong a word, but it feels like it. I'm vetteless for the weekend.

This morning I got in, backed halfway down the drive and it died. Turned around and down at the bottom it had the dreaded message, "Remove key, wait ten seconds".

Well, I tried that a couple of times and each time, it cranked fine but as soon as I put it in gear, it stopped almost immediately with it telling me, "Service Column Lock".

So now my baby sits in the garage waiting for the tow truck Monday morning to take it to the stealership. It's had the GM fix, but because it's a 98, I didn't want to take the chance of installing the kit. the early years do funny things sometimes when people have installed that kit.

Anyone have ideas on what I can do to get her going again?

BTW, the steering wheel isn't locked. It just won't keep running.

Two words for you: Chuck CoW
He is a forum vendor and he is the only one i know of that can take care of the column lock problem for good. I looks like the guys from the dealer do nothing but unlock it and flash the latest "fix" from GM witch still does not fix the dreaded column lock. Give him a call 914-332-0049

FireEyes
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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so how do I get rid of the "column lock warning" everytime I start the car besides the reset button. I asked the dealer and they said its there to stay
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ontcanuck
so how do I get rid of the "column lock warning" everytime I start the car besides the reset button. I asked the dealer and they said its there to stay
See pulling fuses 25 & 29 discussed above:
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Are there any sources for a chip or re-programmer that could be used to get rid of the fuel shut-off that GM programmed in as part of their recalls???

Am I also hearing correctly that the CLB fix that can be bought from Corvettes of Houston also has problems????
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 427435
Are there any sources for a chip or re-programmer that could be used to get rid of the fuel shut-off that GM programmed in as part of their recalls???

Am I also hearing correctly that the CLB fix that can be bought from Corvettes of Houston also has problems????
Not as on now, but you can always send me the PCM for a mail order tune....That wil fix it right up for you....

You will NEVER get stuck again!
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
Not as on now, but you can always send me the PCM for a mail order tune....That wil fix it right up for you....

You will NEVER get stuck again!
Chuck CoW
I sent mine to Chuck and now I can sleep at night! Had the CLB for a long time, but still had to worry about the fuel shutoff.
Chuck gave me total peace of mind, not to mention awesome new throttle response and cooler operating temperature.
On top of that, he completely tunes out CAGS, light and all.
Money well spent. No problem removing the computer and Chuck gives super quick turnaround.
(No, I don't work for Chuck, LOL.)
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Very good info!!! Thanks, I printed up your post to keep in the car "just in case"!!

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Originally Posted by Jet-Jock
Bring the ignition to On, clear your DTC codes.

1) Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.

2) Press the "RESET" button to turn off any warning messages

3) Press and hold "OPTIONS"

4) While holding "OPTIONS", press "FUEL" four times within a 10-second period.

Initially, on-board diagnostics go into an "Automatic Mode" which shows diagnostic codes in a pre-set sequence: PCM - TCS - RTD - BCM - IPC - RADIO - HVAC - LDCM - RDCM - SCM - RFA. All codes will be displayed for each module. If none are present in a given module, you will see "No More Codes" on the display.

To exit the diagnostic mode at any time, press "E/M". If you want to erase codes in a given module, press "RESET".

To reset the codes once in manual mode, press and hold "RESET" until it displays "NO CODES". Press "OPTIONS" to go to the next module. Repeat the steps until you have reset the codes in all the computer modules.

Key back off, remove fuse #25 and wait 10 minutes before re-installing it.

Install the fuse, bring key back to On and all messages should be cleared as well as the fuel cut-off. If you still have problems repeat the above except this time remove fuses #25 and #29 for 10 minutes. Repeat again and it should be good to go.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AlisonC5
Very good info!!! Thanks, I printed up your post to keep in the car "just in case"!!

Andy
Funny, I did the same thing.
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