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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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A qustion for you car nuts: I have Magnesium wheels on the C5 coupe. I've been thinking of getting the C5 Z06 (oem chromed) wheels, or the C6 Z06 wheels. The question is by changing over to the mentioned wheels will it improve or degrade the Resale value of the car? Are the Magnesium wheels on C5 more desirable for resale, or the mentioned? (C5 Z06 (oem chromed) / C6 Z06 wheels).

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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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As far as mods to your car, you have to do the mods that appeal to YOU and not be concerned with what would appreciate or devalue your ride. C5s are not an investment car and unless you are buying wholesale from an auction you will never make money on a C5 (especially after you paid sales tax, etc) If you trade your car I think we do better in stock, unmolested state. If you sell your car outright I think it depends on who is looking at your car. Some folks would rather buy a Vette modded CORRECTLY. Others would buy a bone stock car only. My suggestion to C5 owners is to enjoy the car, mod it to meet YOUR happiness and don't expect it to bring all that much value IF and when you replace it.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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I can tell you this. It is more current to have wheels in larger sizes than stock, therefore more saleable. Your mag wheels were popular in the beginning but in all honesty they are not too desirable now, sort of like the 'wagon wheel' scenario. So, yes, go through with your plans on the C6 wheels and you won't be sorry...you can enjoy them and get more for your car later in trade or private owner sale. I suggest 18" up front and 19" rear, which seem to satisfy the majority and coincide with GMs OEM sizes now.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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I wouldn't compare the magnesiums to wagon wheels, but they are no big attraction to me. Get the wheels you like.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Here is what I did I put on C6 aftermarket Z rims and kept my Mag rims and I went 18's all the way around and like my choice, keep the Mag Rims and you can put them back on when you sale
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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Here is what I did I put on C6 aftermarket Z rims and kept my Mag rims and I went 18's all the way around and like my choice, keep the Mag Rims and you can put them back on when you sale
Mmmmmm.... Good idea. But unforunately, I don't have my own house, my own Pad right now. So, due to lack of space can't do much. So, the choices as mentioned before. . Main question would be that, will I gain anything, or loose anything if I swtich these wheels. (I'm not talking about looks) I'm talking about the performance/handling of the car. Any major gains / losses ?????

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Im a little confused

P.S: Car is basically all stock!
99 Coupe, 2 Tops, Blk/Blk, Blackwing intake, A4, Transgo shift kit, B&M tranny cooler, Z06 3.42 rear end, Z06 Ti's, Hotchkis swaybars, Bilstien Sport shocks, lowerd 1" Stock bolts, Magnesium Wheels, EMTs, 21,XXX Miles. Red & Black Leather accents from WCC, Black Leather Mirror covers, CoCo Floor Mats, Lots of Menzerna (from Germany) Polishing products. Every available option on a C5! Stereo upgrades: JL Audio sub/w box, JL Audio amp, Alpine amp, Infinity Ref series speakers

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Mmmmmm.... Good idea. But unforunately, I don't have my own house, my own Pad right now. So, due to lack of space can't do much. So, the choices as mentioned before. . Main question would be that, will I gain anything, or loose anything if I swtich these wheels. (I'm not talking about looks) I'm talking about the performance/handling of the car. Any major gains / losses ?????

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Yes you theoreticaly will effect the performance due to mounting heavier wheels (anything will be heavier than oem mag wheels, thats why they made them out of magnesium and why the cost so much, because they are lighter and should accelerate and brake quicker than heavier wheels, how much quicker? No idea.).

Will it affect the resale ?
Depends on who buys it.

Regarding your concern about "keeping the car stock" to positively affect resale value:

If the work that is in your sig was done on the car you're talking about, not only is the horse out of the barn already, but if you squint your eyes, you can just make him out as a black spec on the horizon, so you can let that gate go.

It's a 99, its nicely set up the way you like it, put the wheels you want.

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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I don't think that the wheels really make any difference as far as resale goes.
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Originally Posted by Jistari
Im a little confused

P.S: Car is basically all stock!
99 Coupe, 2 Tops, Blk/Blk, Blackwing intake, A4, Transgo shift kit, B&M tranny cooler, Z06 3.42 rear end, Z06 Ti's, Hotchkis swaybars, Bilstien Sport shocks, lowerd 1" Stock bolts, Magnesium Wheels, EMTs, 21,XXX Miles. Red & Black Leather accents from WCC, Black Leather Mirror covers, CoCo Floor Mats, Lots of Menzerna (from Germany) Polishing products. Every available option on a C5! Stereo upgrades: JL Audio sub/w box, JL Audio amp, Alpine amp, Infinity Ref series speakers

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Yes you theoreticaly will effect the performance due to mounting heavier wheels (anything will be heavier than oem mag wheels, thats why they made them out of magnesium and why the cost so much, because they are lighter and should accelerate and brake quicker than heavier wheels, how much quicker? No idea.).

Will it affect the resale ?
Depends on who buys it.

Regarding your concern about "keeping the car stock" to positively affect resale value:

If the work that is in your sig was done on the car you're talking about, not only is the horse out of the barn already, but if you squint your eyes, you can just make him out as a black spec on the horizon, so you can let that gate go.

It's a 99, its nicely set up the way you like it, put the wheels you want.
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Originally Posted by Jistari
Yes you theoreticaly will effect the performance due to mounting heavier wheels (anything will be heavier than oem mag wheels, thats why they made them out of magnesium and why the cost so much, because they are lighter and should accelerate and brake quicker than heavier wheels, how much quicker? No idea.
Okayy... So, the other question was, Will it affect the performance/handling? (In any negative/positive way)? So, I guess the answer is YES, and in a Negative way..right? If that is the case, then why go with "wider wheels/tires"? Seems like no benefit in doing that. I'm not sure how light and how much benefit Mag wheels have, since they are the only wheels I've have since the car was bought. But I'd surely hate to have slower car due to havier wheels (even though they may look nicer)........... okay, I'm totally confused now..
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Wider footprint=Way Frickin'BetterGrip!!!
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Wider footprint=Way Frickin'BetterGrip!!!
Ture! But at the cost of performance & handling... mmm... not sure..
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I wouldn't compare the magnesiums to wagon wheels, but they are no big attraction to me. Get the wheels you like.
i would not compare them to wagon wheels , and i do like mine on the magred vert

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As far as mods to your car, you have to do the mods that appeal to YOU and not be concerned with what would appreciate or devalue your ride. C5s are not an investment car and unless you are buying wholesale from an auction you will never make money on a C5 (especially after you paid sales tax, etc) If you trade your car I think we do better in stock, unmolested state. If you sell your car outright I think it depends on who is looking at your car. Some folks would rather buy a Vette modded CORRECTLY. Others would buy a bone stock car only. My suggestion to C5 owners is to enjoy the car, mod it to meet YOUR happiness and don't expect it to bring all that much value IF and when you replace it.
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Okayy... So, the other question was, Will it affect the performance/handling? (In any negative/positive way)? So, I guess the answer is YES, and in a Negative way..right? If that is the case, then why go with "wider wheels/tires"? Seems like no benefit in doing that. I'm not sure how light and how much benefit Mag wheels have, since they are the only wheels I've have since the car was bought. But I'd surely hate to have slower car due to havier wheels (even though they may look nicer)........... okay, I'm totally confused now..
OK 1 at a time (yes, we are very patient here )

1) Will changing from mag wheels effect performance ? Yes, negatively, they are lighter (by far) then anything else you can put on the car. Note below post:

I live in Detroit (pot hole city) and recently upgraded my wagon wheels to the Mags. I feel a slight difference in acceleration and deceleration and there is a noticable difference in feel when changing direction at higher speeds. It takes noticably less effort to turn the wheels when changing lanes on the highway, for instance. Responsiveness to bumps... jury is out on that one. I am putting some new shocks on soon and will post my impressions of the magnesium / Bilstein HD setup.

BTW: The weights listed for the magnesium wheels under the sticky thread were WAY off. Mine weighed in at 9.5lbs front and 10.5 lbs rear without sensors or tires. They are very light.

I bought the wheels mostly for the cosmetic difference.

2) Then why add wider tires ?

We dont (at least I dont) have the ability to drive through every corner at wide open throttle. At some point the power and inertia overtake the adhesion of the tires and you will break loose. Wider tires theoreticaly push the point at which that happens deeper into the turn thus allowing you to transit the corner faster. So while they are heavier, and will accellerate and brake slower, they improve the performance envelope in a different area. Everything is a trade off. You just have to ask yourself : which area needs improvement most ? the accelleration/braking or the stickieness. Many (most) might argue that the C5 accelerates fine and brakes more than fine, so they figure what the hell.....lets go faster
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Just go with the wheels you like - If you are really worried about it, keep the magnesium wheels as a spare.
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OK 1 at a time (yes, we are very patient here )

1) Will changing from mag wheels effect performance ? Yes, negatively, they are lighter (by far) then anything else you can put on the car. Note below post:

I live in Detroit (pot hole city) and recently upgraded my wagon wheels to the Mags. I feel a slight difference in acceleration and deceleration and there is a noticable difference in feel when changing direction at higher speeds. It takes noticably less effort to turn the wheels when changing lanes on the highway, for instance. Responsiveness to bumps... jury is out on that one. I am putting some new shocks on soon and will post my impressions of the magnesium / Bilstein HD setup.

BTW: The weights listed for the magnesium wheels under the sticky thread were WAY off. Mine weighed in at 9.5lbs front and 10.5 lbs rear without sensors or tires. They are very light.

I bought the wheels mostly for the cosmetic difference.

2) Then why add wider tires ?

We dont (at least I dont) have the ability to drive through every corner at wide open throttle. At some point the power and inertia overtake the adhesion of the tires and you will break loose. Wider tires theoreticaly push the point at which that happens deeper into the turn thus allowing you to transit the corner faster. So while they are heavier, and will accellerate and brake slower, they improve the performance envelope in a different area. Everything is a trade off. You just have to ask yourself : which area needs improvement most ? the accelleration/braking or the stickieness. Many (most) might argue that the C5 accelerates fine and brakes more than fine, so they figure what the hell.....lets go faster

VERRRY Well Put. Thanks for increasing my confusion . I was just talking to myself driving tonight, and relised the quick response of this car. I was asking myself, will I feel the same with heavier wheels? They might look good on the outside. But sitting in the car - as a driver I dont see them - instead I "FEEL" how the car behaves. And don't know if it'll behave good with anything differnt than the Mags. However, I think they Mags don't weigh what you said. THAT is rediculously low weight... no way, I think. But your point well taken. There's always a trade off...
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As far as mods to your car, you have to do the mods that appeal to YOU and not be concerned with what would appreciate or devalue your ride. C5s are not an investment car and unless you are buying wholesale from an auction you will never make money on a C5 (especially after you paid sales tax, etc) If you trade your car I think we do better in stock, unmolested state. If you sell your car outright I think it depends on who is looking at your car. Some folks would rather buy a Vette modded CORRECTLY. Others would buy a bone stock car only. My suggestion to C5 owners is to enjoy the car, mod it to meet YOUR happiness and don't expect it to bring all that much value IF and when you replace it.
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Just keep them. I have all my stock parts put away
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