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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Goodyear Eagle F1....

Are these run-flat?
About what should a person expect to pay for a pair of them.
I'm looking at a used 2001 that has new ones on the rear but the front have only 50% life left. I'm thinking if I should buy this car, I would want to replace the front tires. I'm sure there are experts out there that could answer.

I've also read some reviews on these tires, and it sounds like they may not be the best option. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

Michael
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Michael:

I use Michelin run flats. IMO, they are better and cheaper than the Goodyears. I figure 2 front Goodyear run flats should probably run around $700-$750.
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I paid about $650.00 for 2 rear tires (EMT) about 3 months ago.
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I appreciate the replies. You guys (and gals) are such a great source of information about everything.
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You'll pay about $550-$750 for two front replacements. My fronts just wore out and I replaced all 4 tires with Michlein RFs. I don't regret it
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Originally Posted by mbroadway
Goodyear Eagle F1....

Are these run-flat?
About what should a person expect to pay for a pair of them.
I'm looking at a used 2001 that has new ones on the rear but the front have only 50% life left. I'm thinking if I should buy this car, I would want to replace the front tires. I'm sure there are experts out there that could answer.

I've also read some reviews on these tires, and it sounds like they may not be the best option. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

Michael
Goodyear makes two different Eagle F1s, one is not a runflat and does not allow the TPSs to work, it does NOT have EMT on the sidewall. The other F1 has EMT on the sidewall and is a runflat and the OEM Tire for C5s (non-Z06s). You can usually pick up good tires here (take offs with low mileage). Otherwise they are about $300 each new for fronts.

Other runflat choices are: Firestone, Khumbo, Michlien (ALL SEASON), and Yokohama. Michlien is bringing out a new summer runflat this summer. Other choices ride better but only do 50 miles when flat as opposed to Goodyear's 200 miles (but only 50 miles if you are going to reuse it). Some other choices say to replace tires after running flat !

Probably the best non-runflat is Goodyear GS-D3

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
.....Michlien is bringing out a new summer runflat this summer....

Now you tell us! I bought 4 of the current Michelin RFs this past spring, and I'm not all that impressed with them. They ride well, but IMHO, don't handle as well as the GoodYears.
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
Goodyear makes two different Eagle F1s, one is not a runflat and does not allow the TPSs to work, it does NOT have EMT on the sidewall. The other F1 has EMT on the sidewall and is a runflat and the OEM Tire for C5s (non-Z06s).
Not to be argumentative - but how does the tire choice prevent the tire pressure sensors from working?
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Not to be argumentative - but how does the tire choice prevent the tire pressure sensors from working?


The sensors should work with both.
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totally...... dont see how the tire affects the air pressure the sensor reads. I have the Mich ZP all season and they are quieter than the GY and seem to have a better ride overall. They can only go 50 miles vs 200 if flat.
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Originally Posted by mbroadway
I'm looking at a used 2001 that has new ones on the rear but the front have only 50% life left. I'm thinking if I should buy this car, I would want to replace the front tires. I'm sure there are experts out there that could answer.

Michael
Some people don't like to mix brand/types of tires. If you subscribe to that thinking, and the rears are new, match them with like fronts.

There are tires as good, if not better out there. If you are going to buy a new set of four, I run the GoodYear F1 GSD3's and really like them.

Of course, if you are not going to race or push the vehicle and are just using it for usual street driving conditions, then I would suggest searching the tire rack/ discount tire sites and get a tire with similar properties and the same size as the ones you are replacing, but cheaper (like the Bridgestone wide ovals).

When the fronts and rears are then both worn out, you can start new with a different brand/style of high performance matched tires.

You have many options, your only limitation is your driving use, and wallet size......
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Here's Tire Rack's price ...http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=60
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
Goodyear makes two different Eagle F1s, one is not a runflat and does not allow the TPSs to work, it does NOT have EMT on the sidewall. The other F1 has EMT on the sidewall and is a runflat and the OEM Tire for C5s (non-Z06s).
I agree that Goodyear makes two Eagle F1s - but whichever you use the TPS will work with them. I had the F1 Supercars on my car for nearly 3 years and never had a problem with my TPS working.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Not to be argumentative - but how does the tire choice prevent the tire pressure sensors from working?
Appearently the Goodyear F1 (non-runflat) have steel belts in the sidewall as well as the tread. This prevents the TPS radio from transmitting (it is called a Faraday (sp?) Shield). There is a TSB out on it.

Document ID# 758360
1998 Chevrolet/Geo Corvette


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Info - Wheel Pressure Sensors Unable to be Reprogrammed after Tire Replacement #00-03-10-005 - (Oct 27, 2000)
Wheel Pressure Sensors Unable to be Reprogrammed After Tire Replacement
1997-2001 Chevrolet Corvette

Some dealers may find it difficult to reprogram the wheel mounted air pressure sensors on vehicles which have replacement tires installed. If this is the case, verify the brand and model of the tires. One tire that is known to cause this condition is the Goodyear® Eagle™ F-1. The Goodyear® Eagle™ F-1 uses a unique "all-steel" case construction. The sidewall reinforcement, as well as the tread belts, are made from a woven steel strand material. The presence of this material may cause degradation of the signals generated by the wheel mounted sensors. Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) replacement tires must have Goodyear® Eagle™ F-1 GS EMT molded into the sidewall of the tire. If the tire does not have the GS designation, it is an all steel construction Goodyear® Eagle™ F-1 tire.

This type of interference may not be limited to the Goodyear® Eagle™ F-1 tire. As other manufacturers produce replacements for the Corvette, the individual peculiarities of those tires cannot be predicted. Using OEM replacement tires as identified above is the customer's best assurance of trouble free performance.

What to Advise the Customer
If an inspection of the wheel mounted sensor reveals no visible damage caused by improper installation of the tires, you should recommend that the customer install OEM tires to correct this condition. Further point out to the customer that the current aftermarket tires do not afford the run-flat feature of the original equipment tires. As the Corvette is not fitted with a spare tire, this could be a serious inconvenience to the customer.

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