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I am thinking of changing from Vortex CAI to Honker. My mods now are Vortex, shorty headers, Corsa Indys and x pipe, and dyno tune. My question is do you think I will need to retune? The car is 03 Z. 381 rwhp at present. All opinions welcome. Thanks.
What kind of dyno are you getting those #'s from?
If it's on a dynojet then I would say you may want to get it retuned.....by someone else.
I'm at 375rwhp and all I have is a vara-ram, borla cat back, and tune.
I realize that shorties may not give the same gains as long tubes, but I got to believe you're tunner is leaving about 20rwhp on the table and not your right foot where it belongs..........just my opinion.
As far as will you "NEED" to retune......probably not, unless you start experiencing some surging at idle speeds.
What kind of dyno are you getting those #'s from?
If it's on a dynojet then I would say you may want to get it retuned.....by someone else.
I'm at 375rwhp and all I have is a vara-ram, borla cat back, and tune.
I realize that shorties may not give the same gains as long tubes, but I got to believe you're tunner is leaving about 20rwhp on the table and not your right foot where it belongs..........just my opinion.
As far as will you "NEED" to retune......probably not, unless you start experiencing some surging at idle speeds.
I am considering LT but I doubt I'd pick up more than 10 additional HP. Yes I think it was a dynojet and was tuned by Jeff Creech and I went for a safe street tune. I just don't see LT giving me 20 more HP if I did that would probably be the way to go.
I am considering LT but I doubt I'd pick up more than 10 additional HP. Yes I think it was a dynojet and was tuned by Jeff Creech and I went for a safe street tune. I just don't see LT giving me 20 more HP if I did that would probably be the way to go.
I'm not saying you need to do LT's to get 20 more HP.....I'm saying you should have 20HP with what you have now....and still be "safe"...........I don't know the Jeff guy so I have no comment on him as a tunner..........but with your mods I believe you should be at 400rwhp or there abouts........just my opinion.
I see what you are saying and don't take offense but I disagree. Most of these cars dyno 350-360 stock. Catback doesn't gain much if any so I have 20-30 hp in shorty headers,CAI, and tune. I think realistically you are looking roughly 10 in each of the three. Any way I think I would be better off with the long tubes and a retune. My torque numbers should at least increase and I would expect to get in the 390 range in HP. I just hate to spend the big dollars on LT. Thanks for your replies.
I see what you are saying and don't take offense but I disagree. Most of these cars dyno 350-360 stock. Catback doesn't gain much if any so I have 20-30 hp in shorty headers,CAI, and tune. I think realistically you are looking roughly 10 in each of the three. Any way I think I would be better off with the long tubes and a retune. My torque numbers should at least increase and I would expect to get in the 390 range in HP. I just hate to spend the big dollars on LT. Thanks for your replies.
I agree that your numbers are realistic. 400 HP is very optimistic even for an all bolt on with longtubes and a generous dyno. Also, every dyno reads differently so it wouldn't be fair to say you're not producing enough power even if your numbers were even lower than they are. A before and after comparison of your gains on the same dyno would be the best way to test your mods and tuning
On your original question. I wouldn't change intake systems, you might have a couple HP to gain there but you'd be better off focusing your $ and attention elswhere b/c you already have a decent CAI.
Last edited by ctusser; Feb 11, 2008 at 09:09 PM.
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