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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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What is the difference between Traction System off and Competitive Driving selected?
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CD disables the traction control part, but keeps the AH engaged.
Let's you spin the tires.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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I thought turning off the traction control let you spin the tires?

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CD disables the traction control part, but keeps the AH engaged.
Let's you spin the tires.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nextime
I thought turning off the traction control let you spin the tires?
Yes it lets you sping the tires, but you will not have the active handling system active as the competitive mode does.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Basically with the traction control off... there is no back up for one that cant drive the car. If you do something stupid with the traction control off... the computer wont be there to help you straighten up the car with the assistance of the Active Handling.

With Competetive mode, you can break the tires loose in a straight line (IE: burnout or laying drag from a redlight). But as soon as the computer senses that you are getting sideways, it kicks in till the car is on a straight line track again.
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Active Handling employs a system of yaw sensors that determine if the car is sliding sideways out of control. In that event - it will momentarily engage the brakes opposite the direction of the skid in an attempt to bring the vehicle back under control.

Traction Control will apply brakes to the rear wheel or wheels that are spinning faster than the front wheels, using speed sensors in each wheel.

Competitive driving disengages traction control and leaves Active Handling engaged so in a competitive situation, you can have wheel spin but not lose control of the vehicle.

Here's an article that came out that discusses the first generation of Active handling. In 2001, Gen II came out, that was less intrusive and easier to operate than the first Generation. With the first generation - the car had to be stopped, and the button held down for several seconds before the message Competitive Driving would appear on the DIC. With Generation II - you could be rolling at slow speeds and engage Competitive Driving.

http://idavette.net/hib/ah1.htm
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OK thank you all very much for the help.
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My car is a 2000, I can set it while moving. I've done it plenty of times. But I do have to hold it down for at least 5 seconds before the DIC shows competitive driving.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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I heard it also disables the skip shift; is that true? I'd try it but there's still 4 feet of snow on the ground...
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Since I just bought it on 2-15-08 i been driving it everywhere!

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I heard it also disables the skip shift; is that true? I'd try it but there's still 4 feet of snow on the ground...
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I heard it also disables the skip shift; is that true? I'd try it but there's still 4 feet of snow on the ground...
not 100% sure just 99.975
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I heard it also disables the skip shift; is that true? I'd try it but there's still 4 feet of snow on the ground...
Nope - has nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Nope - has nothing to do with it.
That's good to know, considering I bought a CAGS and still need to install it.
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Check your PM's.

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That's good to know, considering I bought a CAGS and still need to install it.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Nope - has nothing to do with it.
Originally Posted by TeamG
That's good to know, considering I bought a CAGS and still need to install it.


Correct, nothing to do with it. With the car in the air, the cags is a 10 second install, and a good one to have.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Active Handling employs a system of yaw sensors that determine if the car is sliding sideways out of control. In that event - it will momentarily engage the brakes opposite the direction of the skid in an attempt to bring the vehicle back under control.

Traction Control will apply brakes to the rear wheel or wheels that are spinning faster than the front wheels, using speed sensors in each wheel.

Competitive driving disengages traction control and leaves Active Handling engaged so in a competitive situation, you can have wheel spin but not lose control of the vehicle.

Here's an article that came out that discusses the first generation of Active handling. In 2001, Gen II came out, that was less intrusive and easier to operate than the first Generation. With the first generation - the car had to be stopped, and the button held down for several seconds before the message Competitive Driving would appear on the DIC. With Generation II - you could be rolling at slow speeds and engage Competitive Driving.

http://idavette.net/hib/ah1.htm

And it looks cool when it's displayed.
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I have a 2000, was this standard or an option?
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Originally Posted by ALVETTE00
I have a 2000, was this standard or an option?
It was an option.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Active Handling became standard for the 2001 model year.

2001 was the year of the first revision (Generation 2) of the “Active Handling” system. This revision included an allowance for more aggressive driving before AH kicked in.

Also in 2001, the pairing of the independent hydraulic brake systems was changed to (RR & LF) (LR & RF) – Diagonal Pairing.

Prior to 2001, the fronts were paired together and the rears were paired together in separate hydraulic systems. That is why the brake bleeding sequence changed in 2001.

1997 to 2000 bleed sequence is RR, LR, RF, LF

2001 to 2004 bleed sequence is RR, LF, LR, RF.

AH was revised again (Gen 3) in 2005 with the C6.
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My 2001 will go into Competitive Driving at 70mph.
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