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I know I know, but really, is it such a bad idea? I've never had runflats - when I bought my C5 1 year ago it had Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's. They are kinda all I've know.
Just concerned with picking a nail and being SOL.
Let me ask you all this though.
Scenerio:
I pay for 4 runflats. Kill a tire. Let's say unrepariable. Worst case scenario but able to drive home saving me the cost of a tow. Buy a new run flat.
DID THAT SAVE ME MONEY?
Or is simply running on a new GS-D3's when I need new tires, popping one, paying for a tow, and buying a new tire cheaper?
my srt8 comes with regular tires and a compressor/fix a flat stuff as well. I ran without any spare in my TA for years. of course the only time i got a flat with a car that did have a spare, I didnt even know it until i got home
if you are that worried, get a z06 setup with the compressor, fix a flat.
Well I believe the prices are within $100. difference between a GS-D3 and a runflat (for example using Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP).
$218 Front, $296 Rear. for A/S ZP
$194 Front, $290. Rear for GS-D3
(prices from TireRack)
Loss of pressure or literal hole in ZP, less than 50 miles at less than 55mph, repair tire (unless hole and then replace), greater than 50 miles or 55 mph replace the ZP.
Consideration: ZP will most likely prevent rim/wheel damage.
Cost of wheel: depends on stock or after market
Possible damage to body due to tire coming apart?
Getting a flat bed tow.
Driving home rainy late night middle of no where. RF gets you home or to place of repair. Non-run flat you call on cell phone to get help.
Your car, your choice.
Probably should carry a set of jack pucks.
The way I see it all season run flats, grip well in all weather conditions are quiet and for $12. more for the rears and $48. more for the front might help you decide.
I ran GY GS-D3s on my C4. Great tire when new, grips well in wet weather. Don't know about slush or snow. Got about 24K for each set went through two sets.
Started off with GY F1 EMTs on the '01 switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZPs, have no complaints.
I pay for 4 runflats. Kill a tire. Let's say unrepariable. Worst case scenario but able to drive home saving me the cost of a tow. Buy a new run flat.
Goodyear EMT's are covered by a road-hazard warranty. Kill a tire, get a new one free.
Before I get ripped to shreds for that statement, let me say that it has been a few years since I had to test that - maybe things have changed over at Goodyear.
From: If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door. South West Florida / Livin' The Dream
St. Jude Donor '12
[QUOTE=duckvett;1564521429]Goodyear EMT's are covered by a road-hazard warranty. Kill a tire, get a new one free.QUOTE]
Yup it's true. If you watched the NASCAR race Sunday in Atlanta a lot of folks we getting blown out Goodyear's replaced free of charge and in about 15 seconds.
I do think Tony Stewart and Dale Jr. will have to start paying for theirs though.
My insurance covers all towing costs for $6 more a month. That is a better buy than shelling out the hundreds more for runflats... and worse performance.
Put some sensor safe fix-a-flat in the back and call it done. That stuff will get you to the tire shop, too.
Well I believe the prices are within $100. difference between a GS-D3 and a runflat (for example using Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP).
$218 Front, $296 Rear. for A/S ZP
$194 Front, $290. Rear for GS-D3
(prices from TireRack)
Loss of pressure or literal hole in ZP, less than 50 miles at less than 55mph, repair tire (unless hole and then replace), greater than 50 miles or 55 mph replace the ZP.
Consideration: ZP will most likely prevent rim/wheel damage.
Cost of wheel: depends on stock or after market
Possible damage to body due to tire coming apart?
Getting a flat bed tow.
Driving home rainy late night middle of no where. RF gets you home or to place of repair. Non-run flat you call on cell phone to get help.
Your car, your choice.
Probably should carry a set of jack pucks.
The way I see it all season run flats, grip well in all weather conditions are quiet and for $12. more for the rears and $48. more for the front might help you decide.
I ran GY GS-D3s on my C4. Great tire when new, grips well in wet weather. Don't know about slush or snow. Got about 24K for each set went through two sets.
Started off with GY F1 EMTs on the '01 switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZPs, have no complaints.
Exact same story here and I agree with ALL above points.
If a tire goes, the tire could be the cheapest part of the damage it could cause by far. RunFlats are not only a huge safety feature, but they offer you the choice of fixing the tire right now (maybe in a suit on your way to an important business meeting) or later in a better equipped/safer environment. I received a call one night that my Mother had been rushed to Emergency (eventually resulting in her death) - as fate would have it as soon as I got down to the end of my street on the way to the Hospital, the Zero Pressure Left Front came on - I did not even have to give it a second thought - I was able to get there before she passed away - put a price on that! I drove on that tire 3 days before taking it to get it repaired and it was fixed for $10 at Discount Tire.
The Michelin A/S ZPs that I have now also have a two-year or 50% wear replacement warranty. My right front picked up some sort of metal cleat in an Ace Hardware parking lot my second month. Tire could not be repaired. Discount Tire replaced with a new one - again for $10 service charge.
As far a towing... the only real damage I ever had to a Corvette was as a result of a towing company - well worth the price difference not to have to go to court, fight with insurance, etc.
If you are going racing or think you are a street racer and have not have your license suspended yet or your insurance rates raised so high you have to sell your Corvette, then by all means non runflats are the hands down winner for performance and handling. Runflats are for safety & convenience with an acceptable performance hit for street use that the average driver will never notice unless pushing the car to the limit.
I'm "probably" going to go with run-flats on my next tire change. It will be my first tire change since owning the car as well. Currently have Kuhmo asx tires, have had one flat that was repairable at Discount tires for free.
I will try run-flats when it needs tires, see what they are like for a go round and take it from there. I will not be tracking my car, I don't auto-cross. I don't race the idiots on the road. I DO drive spirited, from time to time, but I expect for me, the run-flats will be fine. I think Michelin run-flats are what I will be using.
My car is my daily driver - to from work, weekend fun, etc... and I have put 11K on since purchase in August.
For me - one question I have to ask is what is my piece of mind worth? What is your piece of mind worth if your wife or S/O is along for the drive... or driving?
Goodyear Was Offered A Plant Outside Of The Usa To Make Tires But Decided To Stay Here.that Meant Jobs So Im Kinda Partial To Goodyear They Stuck By Us So Im Sticking By Them.a Little Road Noise Is Better Then All Those People Losing There Jobs Out In Ohio.
Michelin was also chosen as the new tire for C6R Racing team and the new tire for the C7 ZR1. With all there tire manufacturing plants in the US I would suspect they bring jobs to the US as well.
I replaced my GYRF's with General Exclaim UHP's. The GY's would have cost me approx $2000.00 to replace --- the General's cost me $550.00 and I put the necessary tire repair gear in my car just in case I have to fix a flat.
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17,'19,'22
I don't have runflats anymore either, but those Michelin runflats aren't bad at all. The price I paid for non runflats and roadside assistance is a lot less than those tires though. It just made sense for me to switch.
Last edited by JW Motorsports; Mar 13, 2008 at 01:48 PM.
Reason: cuz i can
If you have been running on GS-D3's, you will be sorely dissapointed if you go to runflat. IMO
I went from the OEM runflats to GSD3s back in 2004. I will NEVER go back to the Goodyear F1 runflats -- no comparison in ride/handling quality! This is how the C5 should've felt from the factory!