Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Switch BACK to runflats?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:40 PM
  #1  
FUN LS1's Avatar
FUN LS1
Thread Starter
Safety Car
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,188
Likes: 1
From: Chino California
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default Switch BACK to runflats?

I know I know, but really, is it such a bad idea? I've never had runflats - when I bought my C5 1 year ago it had Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's. They are kinda all I've know.

Just concerned with picking a nail and being SOL.

Let me ask you all this though.

Scenerio:

I pay for 4 runflats. Kill a tire. Let's say unrepariable. Worst case scenario but able to drive home saving me the cost of a tow. Buy a new run flat.

DID THAT SAVE ME MONEY?

Or is simply running on a new GS-D3's when I need new tires, popping one, paying for a tow, and buying a new tire cheaper?

Last edited by FUN LS1; Mar 12, 2008 at 09:44 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:42 PM
  #2  
steve8's Avatar
steve8
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,065
Likes: 1,276
From: Central Ma
Default

I have not replaced my tires yet, but I am leaning towards non runflats.
Runflats can be repaired though, if it's what you describe.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:43 PM
  #3  
FUN LS1's Avatar
FUN LS1
Thread Starter
Safety Car
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,188
Likes: 1
From: Chino California
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

Let's say unrepariable. Worst case scenario.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:44 PM
  #4  
4 KRUSIN's Avatar
4 KRUSIN
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,724
Likes: 2
From: Holland Landing Ontario
Default

I will not have any more run flats. I'd rather take my chances (slim at that) than give up the qualities of my new GS-D3's

Just my opinion.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:56 PM
  #5  
jlbruggeman's Avatar
jlbruggeman
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 23
From: Joplin, MO, USA
Default

I'm sure you probably know, the C5 ZO6s don't have runflats, GM gives you basically a plug kit, and a can of Fix-a flat.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:01 PM
  #6  
DriveAVette's Avatar
DriveAVette
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 289
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo Grove, IL IL
Default

my srt8 comes with regular tires and a compressor/fix a flat stuff as well. I ran without any spare in my TA for years. of course the only time i got a flat with a car that did have a spare, I didnt even know it until i got home

if you are that worried, get a z06 setup with the compressor, fix a flat.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:14 PM
  #7  
Jet-Jock's Avatar
Jet-Jock
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,421
Likes: 8
From: Lake Mary Florida
Default

Well I believe the prices are within $100. difference between a GS-D3 and a runflat (for example using Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP).

$218 Front, $296 Rear. for A/S ZP

$194 Front, $290. Rear for GS-D3
(prices from TireRack)

Loss of pressure or literal hole in ZP, less than 50 miles at less than 55mph, repair tire (unless hole and then replace), greater than 50 miles or 55 mph replace the ZP.

Consideration: ZP will most likely prevent rim/wheel damage.

Cost of wheel: depends on stock or after market

Possible damage to body due to tire coming apart?

Getting a flat bed tow.

Driving home rainy late night middle of no where. RF gets you home or to place of repair. Non-run flat you call on cell phone to get help.

Your car, your choice.

Probably should carry a set of jack pucks.

The way I see it all season run flats, grip well in all weather conditions are quiet and for $12. more for the rears and $48. more for the front might help you decide.

I ran GY GS-D3s on my C4. Great tire when new, grips well in wet weather. Don't know about slush or snow. Got about 24K for each set went through two sets.

Started off with GY F1 EMTs on the '01 switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZPs, have no complaints.
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:21 PM
  #8  
duckvett's Avatar
duckvett
Safety Car
Veteran: Army
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 4,287
Likes: 1,157
From: Green and Wet Western Oregon
2023 C7 of the Year Winner - Unmodified
2018 C6 of Year Winner
Default

Originally Posted by FUN LS1
Scenerio:

I pay for 4 runflats. Kill a tire. Let's say unrepariable. Worst case scenario but able to drive home saving me the cost of a tow. Buy a new run flat.
Goodyear EMT's are covered by a road-hazard warranty. Kill a tire, get a new one free.

Before I get ripped to shreds for that statement, let me say that it has been a few years since I had to test that - maybe things have changed over at Goodyear.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:27 PM
  #9  
Jet-Jock's Avatar
Jet-Jock
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,421
Likes: 8
From: Lake Mary Florida
Default

I think most of the higher end tires are that way. But isn't it a pro-rated warranty?

Unless it is road-hazard that is the extra option one buys? What it's usually about 10-20. bucks per tire or something like that?
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:56 PM
  #10  
Optimus_C5's Avatar
Optimus_C5
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,987
Likes: 25
From: If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door. South West Florida / Livin' The Dream
St. Jude Donor '12
Default

[QUOTE=duckvett;1564521429]Goodyear EMT's are covered by a road-hazard warranty. Kill a tire, get a new one free.QUOTE]

Yup it's true. If you watched the NASCAR race Sunday in Atlanta a lot of folks we getting blown out Goodyear's replaced free of charge and in about 15 seconds.

I do think Tony Stewart and Dale Jr. will have to start paying for theirs though.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:01 AM
  #11  
DefenderC5's Avatar
DefenderC5
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,447
Likes: 6
From: Los Angeles
Default

My insurance covers all towing costs for $6 more a month. That is a better buy than shelling out the hundreds more for runflats... and worse performance.

Put some sensor safe fix-a-flat in the back and call it done. That stuff will get you to the tire shop, too.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:35 AM
  #12  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

Originally Posted by Jet-Jock
Well I believe the prices are within $100. difference between a GS-D3 and a runflat (for example using Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP).

$218 Front, $296 Rear. for A/S ZP

$194 Front, $290. Rear for GS-D3
(prices from TireRack)

Loss of pressure or literal hole in ZP, less than 50 miles at less than 55mph, repair tire (unless hole and then replace), greater than 50 miles or 55 mph replace the ZP.

Consideration: ZP will most likely prevent rim/wheel damage.

Cost of wheel: depends on stock or after market

Possible damage to body due to tire coming apart?

Getting a flat bed tow.

Driving home rainy late night middle of no where. RF gets you home or to place of repair. Non-run flat you call on cell phone to get help.

Your car, your choice.

Probably should carry a set of jack pucks.

The way I see it all season run flats, grip well in all weather conditions are quiet and for $12. more for the rears and $48. more for the front might help you decide.

I ran GY GS-D3s on my C4. Great tire when new, grips well in wet weather. Don't know about slush or snow. Got about 24K for each set went through two sets.

Started off with GY F1 EMTs on the '01 switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZPs, have no complaints.
Exact same story here and I agree with ALL above points.

If a tire goes, the tire could be the cheapest part of the damage it could cause by far. RunFlats are not only a huge safety feature, but they offer you the choice of fixing the tire right now (maybe in a suit on your way to an important business meeting) or later in a better equipped/safer environment. I received a call one night that my Mother had been rushed to Emergency (eventually resulting in her death) - as fate would have it as soon as I got down to the end of my street on the way to the Hospital, the Zero Pressure Left Front came on - I did not even have to give it a second thought - I was able to get there before she passed away - put a price on that! I drove on that tire 3 days before taking it to get it repaired and it was fixed for $10 at Discount Tire.

The Michelin A/S ZPs that I have now also have a two-year or 50% wear replacement warranty. My right front picked up some sort of metal cleat in an Ace Hardware parking lot my second month. Tire could not be repaired. Discount Tire replaced with a new one - again for $10 service charge.

As far a towing... the only real damage I ever had to a Corvette was as a result of a towing company - well worth the price difference not to have to go to court, fight with insurance, etc.

If you are going racing or think you are a street racer and have not have your license suspended yet or your insurance rates raised so high you have to sell your Corvette, then by all means non runflats are the hands down winner for performance and handling. Runflats are for safety & convenience with an acceptable performance hit for street use that the average driver will never notice unless pushing the car to the limit.

Last edited by Choreo; Mar 13, 2008 at 02:39 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 07:54 AM
  #13  
bhoch's Avatar
bhoch
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,749
Likes: 20
From: Liberty Hill Texas
Default

I'm "probably" going to go with run-flats on my next tire change. It will be my first tire change since owning the car as well. Currently have Kuhmo asx tires, have had one flat that was repairable at Discount tires for free.

I will try run-flats when it needs tires, see what they are like for a go round and take it from there. I will not be tracking my car, I don't auto-cross. I don't race the idiots on the road. I DO drive spirited, from time to time, but I expect for me, the run-flats will be fine. I think Michelin run-flats are what I will be using.

My car is my daily driver - to from work, weekend fun, etc... and I have put 11K on since purchase in August.

For me - one question I have to ask is what is my piece of mind worth? What is your piece of mind worth if your wife or S/O is along for the drive... or driving?

Good luck in your choice.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 08:28 AM
  #14  
RON NARDONE's Avatar
RON NARDONE
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 247
Likes: 1
Default

Goodyear Was Offered A Plant Outside Of The Usa To Make Tires But Decided To Stay Here.that Meant Jobs So Im Kinda Partial To Goodyear They Stuck By Us So Im Sticking By Them.a Little Road Noise Is Better Then All Those People Losing There Jobs Out In Ohio.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:49 AM
  #15  
Jet-Jock's Avatar
Jet-Jock
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,421
Likes: 8
From: Lake Mary Florida
Default

Michelin is also located in the US as well as Canada. Corporate N.A. headquarters located in Greeeville SC.

Here's a map: http://www.michelin-us.com/north-america/

Michelin was also chosen as the new tire for C6R Racing team and the new tire for the C7 ZR1. With all there tire manufacturing plants in the US I would suspect they bring jobs to the US as well.

Oh the space shuttle uses Michelins too.

History: http://www.michelin-us.com/north-ame...t/#michelin_NA
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:57 PM
  #16  
Cirrus8's Avatar
Cirrus8
Drifting
15 Year Member
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,755
Likes: 97
From: Sandy Utah
Default

I replaced my GYRF's with General Exclaim UHP's. The GY's would have cost me approx $2000.00 to replace --- the General's cost me $550.00 and I put the necessary tire repair gear in my car just in case I have to fix a flat.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 01:10 PM
  #17  
diyguy's Avatar
diyguy
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,024
Likes: 18
From: DFW Texas
Default

If you have been running on GS-D3's, you will be sorely dissapointed if you go to runflat. IMO
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Switch BACK to runflats?

Old Mar 13, 2008 | 01:24 PM
  #18  
peter pan's Avatar
peter pan
Life Time NCM #2196
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 82,586
Likes: 1,698
From: Converse TX
Default

No runcraps on my Vette just a plug and air pump kit in my Vette
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 01:48 PM
  #19  
JW Motorsports's Avatar
JW Motorsports
Banned Scam/Spammer
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 50,093
Likes: 267
From: Oklahoma City
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17,'19,'22
Default

I don't have runflats anymore either, but those Michelin runflats aren't bad at all. The price I paid for non runflats and roadside assistance is a lot less than those tires though. It just made sense for me to switch.

Last edited by JW Motorsports; Mar 13, 2008 at 01:48 PM. Reason: cuz i can
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 01:53 PM
  #20  
nwdanner's Avatar
nwdanner
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 896
Likes: 1
From: Overland Park KS
Default

Originally Posted by diyguy
If you have been running on GS-D3's, you will be sorely dissapointed if you go to runflat. IMO
I went from the OEM runflats to GSD3s back in 2004. I will NEVER go back to the Goodyear F1 runflats -- no comparison in ride/handling quality! This is how the C5 should've felt from the factory!
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:43 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE