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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Default 32 Valve LS Heads

Check these out for 8 Grand.

http://www.araoengineering.com/LSX.htm
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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They are pricey and I would love to see one on a LS2/7 setup and see if they are the real deal
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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Impressive, but way out of my price range.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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how cool would it be if chevrolet finally released a 32 valve double overhead cam setup on the ls3. that would be one of the greatest engines of all time.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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why???

we're getting 700+hp out of N/A 3rd gen engines now with only 16 valves. Start adding boost and I've seen cars with 700rwhp from 346ci. All I can see is added weight and complexity with nothing to show other than a bragging rights for having a 32v engine
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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I think they are pretty cool......I always did love 4v heads, haha.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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...But more stuff to break !
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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And the problem they're solving is ...what?
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I love my DOHC with VVT in my 1994 Infiniti Q45t. The car has 170,000 miles on it and regulary runs to 7,400 RPM in the first 2 gears on the dragstrip for fun. The engine sounds great, and the Magnaflow exhaust is a blast. 4.5 litres and 330 HP and 350 ft/lb torque is not bad. I have a couple videos on You Tube. Do a search for "Q45".

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I have a 4.11:1 rear for my new car and a stronger transmission with a cooler and a 3K stall converter. This should get me in the 14 second quarter mile range.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GOZ2FST
And the problem they're solving is ...what?
they will rev higher

it takes longer for small valves to float and you can use lighter springs
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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just think, with all that flow you would use a cam that has a duration of almost 200 and lift in the low 400 range... talk about long life of your valve train...and with those baby specks it would still out flow the standard head by 2:1
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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There is a lot of information out there about this company. Seems to be VERY shaky at best and dishonest at worst. Lot's of pics but no heads... I don't think I'll be sending my hard earned money to them anytime soon.

My $.02.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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be careful guys. Although on smaller engines a DOHC design can be advantageous... in larger V6 and V8's, it adds too much weight, too much rotating mass, and too much $$$.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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1 pushrod for 2 valves. I guess it can handle it but that seems scary.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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The guy who designed these does not have the best of reputation. Not to mention I am almost positive no one actually has a set of these. Our simple 2 valve heads flow amazingly impressive amounts of air. There is just something to be said for engineering simplicity.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
be careful guys. Although on smaller engines a DOHC design can be advantageous... in larger V6 and V8's, it adds too much weight, too much rotating mass, and too much $$$.
look at the pics
weight change would be minimal


what's this about the co. being crooked ?
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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This place had a horrible reputation, but was recently bought out I think and apparently the guy was trying to turn it right side up.

That being said I haven't heard of them sending out a new set of heads in about 5 years.

The heads that are out in use have been passed around pribvate party to private party.

I would be very leary of sending any money to this company.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
There is a lot of information out there about this company. Seems to be VERY shaky at best and dishonest at worst. Lot's of pics but no heads... I don't think I'll be sending my hard earned money to them anytime soon.

My $.02.
They've been advertising LTx heads of the same ideas for YEARS now, yet to my knowledge there's not a set in a running car out there. A couple of guys got real close, but watching their work unfold was enough for me to turn my head. For a "bolt on" installation, they sure required a lot of custom work (headers and intake manifold among things). Same goes with the LSx stuff. There was a big thread on these over at ls1lt1.com a while back, and the advertiser there made mention of an approximate 1/2" wider surface mounting width on each side for the exhaust manifolds. May not seem like much but could wreak havoc on an already tight application.
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The next generation engine in our Vettes will be more like Northstars with direct injection, smaller displacement, factory superchargers, OHC, and four valves. LOTS of moving parts!
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thetaxman
look at the pics
weight change would be minimal
If you're talking about the pics on the areoengineering website, that engine is not a DOHC.... the single cam is still in the block. Mike Mercury is right..... a DOHC engine in a Corvette would be heavier.... and, most importantly to a lot of folks... much more expensive, if it delivered the performance that our "old technology" pushrod engine does.
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