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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Received a dealer quote to repair the common C5 fuel gauge problem. Recall from a previous thread one dealer quoted me $1,000 parts and $1,100 labor. Researched the repair myself and had a different dealer quote me the repair. This dealer quoted $650 parts and $500 labor (3.5 hours). The dealer gave me the part numbers which I checked online. The online parts price is $415.48 versus the dealer quote of $650. I should be able to negotiate the parts cost down some. They want the car for 2 days to diagnose the problem in case all parts quoted are not needed. In my case the car will probably need all the parts. I will probably have this work done.

For the do it yourself repair the part numbers are:

Strainer kit 12459862 $74.10
Fuel pump 89047748 $312.73
Sending unit 88899034 $28.65
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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If its just your sending units than a bottle of Techron or Seafoam will fix it.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Been there, done that. I must have put 20 bottles of Techron, Sea Foam, or GM Fuel System additive in this car. The GM additive worked the best but at twice the cost. I have been fighting this problem for 2 years and have run out of gas 3 times. Once the gauge read 3/8 of a tank left. I am getting it fixed permanently.

After the repair I will post the actual parts installed for those who may want to make the repair themselves. I also have 10 pages of instructions from Alldata Online to replace the fuel level sending units.
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Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
If its just your sending units than a bottle of Techron or Seafoam will fix it.
Seafoam helped out my old one.

Paul G.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Are there any independent vette shops in Woodbury?
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Keppler
Been there, done that. I must have put 20 bottles of Techron, Sea Foam, or GM Fuel System additive in this car. The GM additive worked the best but at twice the cost. I have been fighting this problem for 2 years and have run out of gas 3 times. Once the gauge read 3/8 of a tank left. I am getting it fixed permanently.

After the repair I will post the actual parts installed for those who may want to make the repair themselves. I also have 10 pages of instructions from Alldata Online to replace the fuel level sending units.
I doubt that you will get it fixd for good. Everyone that I know that got it fixed, ended up having the same problems on down the line.
Good Luck
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Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
If its just your sending units than a bottle of Techron or Seafoam will fix it.
I have run a bottle of Techron through and now running Seafoam hope to cure this problem but not so far.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Seafoam helped me too! It also may be a bad ground there are numerous posts on how to check for that too!
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I found 2 TSB's. TSB 02-06-04-010A covers the reprograming of the PCM to ignore voltage spikes from the fuel sending units. I believe this one is responsible for the PCM shutting off the gas gauge. This throws a code and when reset the gas gauge works fine again. TSB 01-06-04-022 is what the dealer gave me today. I believe this one lists the parts to replace in the fuel system when the level sensors become corroded. The fuel level sending units are updated.

The ground to the frame is located near the sending units. This will also be checked.

The dealer said they can determine exactly which parts are faulty by running computer diagnostics, measuring the level sensor resistance, and sending a signal back to the gas gauge. This is why they want the car for 2 days. It may take a day to order parts. They want to diagnose the problem and then order the needed parts.
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I had the same problem in my 98-coupe 67k for the past one year. Two seafoams, four Chevron bottles and it still persisted. I also had other electrical problems with this one. They all went away once I cleaned my ignition switch contacts. Ever since then the fuel gauge needle has not dipped to zero. I am not sure if the two were related or if the fuel additives finally did their magic.

This is why they want the car for 2 days. It may take a day to order parts. They want to diagnose the problem and then order the needed parts.
Either way, seems like the stealership is making sure they diagnose the problem at the root before throwing your money at it. Good luck!!

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Why is a fuel pump needed if the sender is changed?
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Hey guys, on a small sidenote...can anyone specify what benefits Seafoam has and what to expect after using it?
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Originally Posted by Keppler
Received a dealer quote to repair the common C5 fuel gauge problem. Recall from a previous thread one dealer quoted me $1,000 parts and $1,100 labor. Researched the repair myself and had a different dealer quote me the repair. This dealer quoted $650 parts and $500 labor (3.5 hours). The dealer gave me the part numbers which I checked online. The online parts price is $415.48 versus the dealer quote of $650. I should be able to negotiate the parts cost down some. They want the car for 2 days to diagnose the problem in case all parts quoted are not needed. In my case the car will probably need all the parts. I will probably have this work done.

For the do it yourself repair the part numbers are:

Strainer kit 12459862 $74.10
Fuel pump 89047748 $312.73
Sending unit 88899034 $28.65
Using the fuel additives do help but it is important also to use a fuel Brand that is concerned Top Tier. Octane in Gas does not mean the quality of the fuel is the same with all pump stations. Do a engine search for "top tier gas" and see the breakdown. I would try all options before the additional costs. My 98 coupe started to fail and I used the additions and switched to a Top Tier fuel... had magic results.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Yes sir, I always try to use top tier gas.

For that particular part number I think it is an assembly. And in that assembly contains a fuel pump and the title of the part number only lists the fuel pump. You know GM instead of one part why not replace the entire assembly. I found the actual part number for only the fuel level sensor, it costs only $92.24. This is probably the only part needed in that assembly.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Techron will not work. I had the fuel sending unit fix and it cost me about $600. The part is cheap its the labor that is expensive. They have to drop the rear axl to get to the tanks.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Hi Keppler,
Here is another option if you don't want to go to a dealer. I know of an independant who is great at diagnostics and repair. I've taken several vehicles to them and they get it right the first time. If my vette needed repair, this is the first place I'd go.

Mark's auto service.
Just north of the intersection of 694 and Silver Lake Road on the right side of the road. Phone: 651-631-4926. They do work on all types of vehicles (even foreign).

Best of luck!
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I am considering independent shops since I can under cut the parts costs by ordering them myself.

The original dealer quote was $2,100. This dealer wanted to charge 11 hours labor because they said the entire rear driveline and suspension has to come out to remove the tanks. This is what started my quest because I thought $2,100 was ridiculous to change 2 fuel level sensors.

I spent Saturday morning at the public library were AllData Online is available. The tanks come out the wheel wells. The rear driveline and suspension does not have to come out. AllData stated the labor time for both fuel level sensors at 3.5 hours. The second dealer quote this morning confirmed that; their charge is 3.5 hours labor.
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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If you do try Mark's Auto Service, tell them that Jerome sent you. I don't get anything for it, but they will make the connection. Let me know how it turns out. Mark isn't going to be the cheapest, but like I said in my other post, it gets done right the first time. That is worth it to me.
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Sometimes your only recourse is to replace the sending units. Had to do that with my '99. Good luck and hope this fixes the problem for a long time.
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