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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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I am thinking about taking my 2001 Mag Red Convertible to Lingenfelter to get the 383 package. I am wondering if this is a smart thing to do given the country's economic situation, the price of gas, and the falling value of muscle cars to boot.

This is not about my personal finance, this is more about being able to enjoy the car for a time and sell it for a decent price.

I was always told the car will be worth the value of the car in the market plus about 90% of the cost of the Lingenfelter package.

I am looking for personal experience of anyone who has taken their car to Lingenfelter. I would like to know if you felt it was worth the money, and if you sold your car how you did on the value.
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Originally Posted by YoYoComputer
Guys/Girls:

I am thinking about taking my 2001 Mag Red Convertible to Lingenfelter to get the 383 package. I am wondering if this is a smart thing to do given the country's economic situation, the price of gas, and the falling value of muscle cars to boot.

This is not about my personal finance, this is more about being able to enjoy the car for a time and sell it for a decent price.

I was always told the car will be worth the value of the car in the market plus about 90% of the cost of the Lingenfelter package.

I am looking for personal experience of anyone who has taken their car to Lingenfelter. I would like to know if you felt it was worth the money, and if you sold your car how you did on the value.
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Don't ever expect to get your $$ back from up-grades and customizing your car.... do it only if you want to enjoy it for yourself, that's the only consideration you should have. You should be able to expect it to be worth a little more than the average stocker, but no where near what you have invested. I haven't modded my 02 vert yet, other than the snow tires and fuzzy dice, but I've sure sunk a pile of $$ in other cars over the years, and I don't regret a dime of it 'cause I did it to enjoy for myself.
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Don't ever expect to get your $$ back from up-grades and customizing your car.... do it only if you want to enjoy it for yourself, that's the only consideration you should have.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Mods do not equal a good resale value as this is a losing deal
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"... was always told the car will be worth the value of the car in the market plus about 90% of the cost of the Lingenfelter package...."

Who was telling you that?
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Originally Posted by dankhts
Don't ever expect to get your $$ back from up-grades and customizing your car.... do it only if you want to enjoy it for yourself, that's the only consideration you should have.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by YoYoComputer
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I was always told the car will be worth the value of the car in the market plus about 90% of the cost of the Lingenfelter package.
Originally Posted by dankhts
Don't ever expect to get your $$ back from up-grades and customizing your car.... do it only if you want to enjoy it for yourself, that's the only consideration you should have. You should be able to expect it to be worth a little more than the average stocker, but no where near what you have invested.
dankhts has it right. Case in point, I bought my '02 Z with a supercharger and several suspension upgrades (a little over 10K invested). I paid bluebook value for it. Had I realized this at the time, I would have held out and bought an even further mod'ed car.
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I had an 84 that I purchased for 5K... I put in another 12-13k in paint, body mods, stereo, wheel and tires, and other stuff. Could not sell it for 10K. Ended up trading it when I purchased my 02 for 7,500....

Yea this one I am putting in a lot of money on mods but I am going to keep it for at least 10 years and enjoy it....
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Always thought... if I ever upgraded to a Z06, I'd buy one that has already been modded the way I wanted it. When it came down to it, I really didn't want a car that has been (or possibly been) beat on. I bought a virgin. Not even the CLB or CAGS eliminator. As a matter of fact, he still had the registration sticker in the corner of the front window.
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Originally Posted by YoYoComputer
Guys/Girls:

I am thinking about taking my 2001 Mag Red Convertible to Lingenfelter to get the 383 package. I am wondering if this is a smart thing to do given the country's economic situation, the price of gas, and the falling value of muscle cars to boot.

This is not about my personal finance, this is more about being able to enjoy the car for a time and sell it for a decent price.

I was always told the car will be worth the value of the car in the market plus about 90% of the cost of the Lingenfelter package.

I am looking for personal experience of anyone who has taken their car to Lingenfelter. I would like to know if you felt it was worth the money, and if you sold your car how you did on the value.
Do it because YOU want to and purge your mind of any expectation that you get that "mod money" back. Lingenfelter is a top notch tuner (which is why you pay a top notch price) but you get what you pay for and LPE is one of the best in the business. You might get lucky and find a private buyer willing to pay for SOME of your enhancements but the key word is "lucky"
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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purchased my vette last year with 20K in aftermarket reciepts for a little over 20K. Dont expect to get much for the mods. If you are going to do it, do it for yourself. Enjoy it. My 2 cents.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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I would do it again. As for getting 90% of your money back No way.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Another viewpoint:

Say you have a 2001 (as noted). Value is 'x' depending on mileage.

You've no intentions of getting rid of the Vette in the near term (say 5 years).

So, in 5 years what will be the value of your Vette? Assume that by that time you have 75k on her - do you think you will be able to sell her for more than $10-12k?

Okay, now assume you install the LPE, for ~$10k. You keep the car for the next 5 years, but the motor has ~20k on it.

Do you believe it will be worth more than ~$10 - 12k - I.e., a similar Vette with an OEM motor with 75K?

Then the question becomes - in the next 5 years will you enjoy the Vette more, or less, with the LPE, and was the average yearly cost for the motor of $2k ($10k/5)worth it if the selling price makes the yearly costs drop to ~$1k (I.e., in 5 years your Vette sells for ~15 - 17k)?

Just a note - I went through this with my '99 - installed a LPE 427 (~$20K). I felt sure I would keep the Vette for at least 5, and possibly 10 years.

The cost per year thus were ~$2k and 4k per year, and with the possibility of recovering ~$5 - 7 k for a LPE 427 made the economics (and the enjoyment) acceptable.

Just my $0.02
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I would say that you should do it! You only live once. You will get a ton of enjoyment every time you turn the key! That in itself...will be well worth the price! Will you see much of your $$$ return when it's sale time? No...but you will see some...especially with an LPE car. Research and drive several different options...stroker, tt, s/c, heads/cam...etc.......that way you will be familiar with all the choices and make the right choice for you. If you are going to do a 383...why not go 427? Whatever you do.....I would do something and do it soon...so you can begin enjoying!!
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Originally Posted by dankhts
Don't ever expect to get your $$ back from up-grades and customizing your car.... do it only if you want to enjoy it for yourself, that's the only consideration you should have. You should be able to expect it to be worth a little more than the average stocker, but no where near what you have invested.
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Yea this one I am putting in a lot of money on mods but I am going to keep it for at least 10 years and enjoy it.... [/QUOTE]

thats the way I live both on my cars, trucks and home. Do it if your going to enjoy it for a good period of time. If not, then you may enjoy spending money else where
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I would do it again. As for getting 90% of your money back No way.
THIS LOOKS AMAZING!
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I recently bought an LPE car, and the seller got 100% of the cost of the engine package back. Only thing is, he had to throw the car in for free. I bought the car for a little more than he paid for the LPE Twin Turbo package.

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