[Z06] key in no start???? WTF???
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Pro
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From: West Covina CA
key in no start???? WTF???
alright anybody had this issue.... my car: 02 Vette Z06 got in it today as it sat in this hot cali weather. turn the key and no crank no tick no nothing. almost as if the clutch safety switch was not engaged. pushed the clutch in again and turned the key.... same thing!!!! took about 4 or 5 times of taking out the key and turning it to start. WTF??? got it home parked it for about an hour came back and same thing.... so i disconnected the 2 wire clutch switch and jumped it with a paper clip to c if i t was the problem, but it countined. this time it took about 10 tries before it started. anyone have this issue before?????
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You may have a PASS Key problem. The symptoms are exactly what would happen if you used the wrong key to start the car. One thing to remember with a PASS Key problem is if it doesn't start you need to wait 3 minutes before trying again. To deter theft the system sets a timer that prevents the car from starting for 3 minutes. If you try to start the car before the timer runs out the timer is reset to 3 minutes. It is an excellent anti theft system but can drive you crazy if it is acting up.
Check the codes on the DIC. If the system wasn't reading the key properly there should be a code.
If you can push start the car it isn't a PASS Key problem.
Bill
Check the codes on the DIC. If the system wasn't reading the key properly there should be a code.
If you can push start the car it isn't a PASS Key problem.
Bill
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If you can push start the car, its very likely the starter.
I have cooked 3 of them suckers to date - 1 under GM warranty, 1 under extended warranty.. and now one being replaced on my dime as I type this.
I have cooked 3 of them suckers to date - 1 under GM warranty, 1 under extended warranty.. and now one being replaced on my dime as I type this.
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i was thinking the starter to since i am running a set of SLP headers and they run real close.... but i guess some further investigating is needed when it happens. by the way DTC's are clear, no codes.
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The first night I came home with my 01 I had a similar issue. I used the 2nd key and thats when it all went to Crxxp. I went back to the #1 key and all was fine. I cleaned the #2 key with alcohol and then it was fine and still is.
The #1 key was the key the owner used the entire time. The #2 key was in a bag with all of the dealer stuff. Who knows maybe it had some crud on it.
After cleaning the #2 key I never had the problem again.
dang cars
The #1 key was the key the owner used the entire time. The #2 key was in a bag with all of the dealer stuff. Who knows maybe it had some crud on it.
After cleaning the #2 key I never had the problem again.
dang cars
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Assuming you aren't getting any DIC messages, try this: When the no start condition presents itself - be patient, turn the key to start and hold it - and this may take a minute or two (or up to 5 in my case), just sit there and hold it. If the vehicle eventually starts (which is highly likely) without you changing a thing, you have a starter that is on it's way out. The starter is washed with heat from the exhaust and eventually develops bad brushes which cause "dead spots" preventing it from kicking over.
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From: DFW TX
I have also known the terminals inside the ignition that read the chip on the key to break loose. Make sure they are in place and touching the chip on the key. If this is not the issue I would move on to the starter as suggested.
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From: Springdale AR
Assuming you aren't getting any DIC messages, try this: When the no start condition presents itself - be patient, turn the key to start and hold it - and this may take a minute or two (or up to 5 in my case), just sit there and hold it. If the vehicle eventually starts (which is highly likely) without you changing a thing, you have a starter that is on it's way out. The starter is washed with heat from the exhaust and eventually develops bad brushes which cause "dead spots" preventing it from kicking over.
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From: Auburn Georgia
Have you checked the battery on the key fob? My mother-in-law's Chevy Malibu stalled in the middle of the road because her battery was dying. I am not sure if it would be the same scenerio for a vette, but its worth a shot?
