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Old May 7, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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I'm putting drag radials on my car for a track day this weekend. I have 295/35/18's on the car now and I'm going to put 305/45/18's on the car.

The 305/45/18's are 28'' tall as opposed to the 26'' 295/35/18's, will the computer get all screwy with the different diameter tire?
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As long as the back tires are taller than the fronts, you'll be fine. The taller tire has less revolutions per mile than a shorter tire, and that's what the EBCM monitors through the speed sensors in each wheel. It compares front to back wheel speed, if it senses the backs spinning faster than the fronts, it will invoke traction control.
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Your speedo will be off as well... Just curious... Why are you going to such a tall tire?
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Thanks for the reply back. I didn't even think about the traction control being an issue.

I was mainly referring to a thread I read earlier about "changing the rear gears", and had mentioned about the speedo calibration and the car going into "limp mode". Someone said that as long as the tires are the same size, there wouldn't be any problems.

Here's the Thread, under Post #4
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1986164
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If you go with more than a 2% variation from the assumed tire diameter in the PCM calibration, you can damage your powertrain.
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
If you go with more than a 2% variation from the assumed tire diameter in the PCM calibration, you can damage your powertrain.
How?
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How?
For the reasons already posted up. The speed sensors will send mixed feedback to the PCM and interpret wheel spin and invoke the TC which in turn could cause damage to any number of things in the driveline.
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Originally Posted by IM28702
Just curious... Why are you going to such a tall tire?
I'm getting the 305/45/18's brand new for free. It's only for the track.



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For the reasons already posted up. The speed sensors will send mixed feedback to the PCM and interpret wheel spin and invoke the TC which in turn could cause damage to any number of things in the driveline.
What if I turn TC off? Shouldn't that fix the problem??
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Originally Posted by Hysteria
I'm getting the 305/45/18's brand new for free. It's only for the track.




i run a 345/30/19 tire and it's very tall @ 27.4"OD .

i'm not sure if a 305/45/18 28.8"OD tire would even fit back there without severly modifying the wheelwell.

i know a 335/30/20 with an OD of 28.0" needs wheelwell modifications.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...2&postcount=43
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Originally Posted by jdmvette
i run a 345/30/19 tire and it's very tall @ 27.4"OD .

i'm not sure if a 305/45/18 28.8"OD tire would even fit back there without severly modifying the wheelwell.

i know a 335/30/20 with an OD of 28.0" needs wheelwell modifications.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...2&postcount=43
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Okay, thanks for that tidbit. I'm not modifying the wheelwell. I'll just see about having them exchanged for some Nitto 285/35/18's (25.91'' tall)or 305/35/18's (26.42" tall).

Thanks for your help.
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The most likely won't fit issue is primarily why I asked. To throw in my 2cents, if it's for the track, I'd go shorter to help your gearing. I run 315/30/18's which are an inch shorter than stock and about three feet wider than stock. On factory Z06 wheels, they work great.
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
For the reasons already posted up. The speed sensors will send mixed feedback to the PCM and interpret wheel spin and invoke the TC which in turn could cause damage to any number of things in the driveline.
You mean it could damage my flux capacitor -oh no! I hate guesses.
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Originally Posted by IM28702
The most likely won't fit issue is primarily why I asked. To throw in my 2cents, if it's for the track, I'd go shorter to help your gearing. I run 315/30/18's which are an inch shorter than stock and about three feet wider than stock. On factory Z06 wheels, they work great.
I was able to trade in the 305/45/18's and get some 285/35/18's. They're a little shorter than my regular rear tires I have on now. I think they're 25.9'' vs 26.1'' of my street tires.

I mounted them and balanced them this afternoon and they're on the car with the fatory 5 spokes for this Saturday's Track day.

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Originally Posted by MagneticRed1977
You mean it could damage my flux capacitor -oh no! I hate guesses.
Very funny. What I said is not a guess, its a fact. The Corvette was not designed with drag racing in mind and aside from the TC issue you can put undue stress on the rear axle by going with tires that are 2% taller than stock.
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
Very funny. What I said is not a guess, its a fact. The Corvette was not designed with drag racing in mind and aside from the TC issue you can put undue stress on the rear axle by going with tires that are 2% taller than stock.
The traction control issues occur when the front tires are taller than the rear tires. The shorter rear tire will spin faster than the taller front tire, at any given speed, and the car interprets it as wheel spin and activates the Traction Control.
Now, how do 2% taller tires put extra stress on the rear axle?
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Originally Posted by Mister Peebody
Now, how do 2% taller tires put extra stress on the rear axle?
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The tire will make a 10.2% difference in your speedometer reading. When your speedometer reads 60 mph you will actually be traveling at 66.1 mph. be careful if you drive to the track with them on.

Heres a web site that will calculate this information for you.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html


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Originally Posted by GrandpasC502
The tire will make a 10.2% difference in your speedometer reading. When your speedometer reads 60 mph you will actually be traveling at 66.1 mph. be careful if you drive to the track with them on.

Heres a web site that will calculate this information for you.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html


I changed the tires to to 285/35/18's. They're almost the same height as my street tires.
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