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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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If we were to turn on your car at your garage to warm it up for a bit, what would be the highest oil temp you would like the car to get to? my buddy has a 2003 z and he told me, that last week he turned the car on and went to have breakfast, once he came back down to turn the car off, he noticed that his oil guage read 180. is that normal? he said, he did not even paid attention to the temp guage.
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If we were to turn on your car at your garage to warm it up for a bit, what would be the highest oil temp you would like the car to get to? my buddy has a 2003 z and he told me, that last week he turned the car on and went to have breakfast, once he came back down to turn the car off, he noticed that his oil guage read 180. is that normal? he said, he did not even paid attention to the temp guage.
why would he ever do that - it's just so wrong on so many levels.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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why would he ever do that - it's just so wrong on so many levels.
that is what i asked him. and his reply was that he has so many cars in the garage that the Z never gets driven so he just turns it on once in a while to warm it up. i usually let mine get up to 90 and than i take it for a spin

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his oil pressure sensor may have gone bad,very common problem.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Hope he left the garage door closed-
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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That must have been a huge breakfast. Sometimes I can drive for 10+ minutes at normal highway speeds before mine reaches 180°.
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Originally Posted by jiu-jitsu99
... once he came back down to turn the car off, he noticed that his oil guage read 180. is that normal? he said, he did not even paid attention to the temp guage.
Not quite clear on what's going on here. So his OIL TEMP or OIL PRESSURE gage read "180"?

Title of this thread is "oil temp" ... so I'm assuming his oil TEMP gage read "180".

If so, sounds like he should have had a longer breakfest! When I start mine up in the winter I try to get the oil temp above 210 deg F to ensure all the moisture is burned off inside the engine.
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Not quite clear on what's going on here. So his OIL TEMP or OIL PRESSURE gage read "180"?

Title of this thread is "oil temp" ... so I'm assuming his oil TEMP gage read "180".

If so, sounds like he should have had a longer breakfest! When I start mine up in the winter I try to get the oil temp above 210 deg F to ensure all the moisture is burned off inside the engine.
so what you are saying is that it is ok to have the oil temp gage read 180? i did not ask him what the water temp was....how long would you let your car warm up before shutting down? if you only drive your car maybe once a month?
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Originally Posted by jiu-jitsu99
so what you are saying is that it is ok to have the oil temp gage read 180? i did not ask him what the water temp was....how long would you let your car warm up before shutting down? if you only drive your car maybe once a month?
What? ... the oil temp usually gets to 200 to 230 deg F during normal driving around town conditions. I don't see why 180 deg F would be a big concern. If anything, 180 deg F oil temp is NOT HOT ENOUGH if you are just starting up the car in the garage to run it. Like I said earlier, I'd run it until the oil is at least 200 or 210 deg F to ensure condensation gets boiled out of the oil.
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What? ... the oil temp usually gets to 200 to 230 deg F during normal driving around town conditions. I don't see why 180 deg F would be a big concern. If anything, 180 deg F oil temp is NOT HOT ENOUGH if you are just starting up the car in the garage to run it. Like I said earlier, I'd run it until the oil is at least 200 or 210 deg F to ensure condensation gets boiled out of the oil.
thanks appreciate the info. so when you warm your car during these conditions you usually go by oil temp and not by a set time?
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my oil temp always reads "low" i checked the oil level and its full, is this a bad oil temp sensor?
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Originally Posted by jiu-jitsu99
thanks appreciate the info. so when you warm your car during these conditions you usually go by oil temp and not by a set time?
Yes ... I always go by oil temp. If oil temp is up nice and hot, then the whole engine is up nice and hot, which is important to ensure all the condensation and crud is burned off the guts of the engine.
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Originally Posted by TrchRedC5
my oil temp always reads "low" i checked the oil level and its full, is this a bad oil temp sensor?
Could be ... have you checked for DTC codes?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TrchRedC5
my oil temp always reads "low" i checked the oil level and its full, is this a bad oil temp sensor?
Select OIL TEMP on your DIC .... does the reading seem "rational" ..... if it is showing the oil temp is 5 below zero and you have been driving for 30 minutes .... unless you live within 3 miles of the North Pole .... I'd kinda guess your oil temperature sensor is about as reliable as Billery Clinton swearing to tell the truth.

Replace the oil temp sensor.

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moisture in the oil burns off as long as your oil temp is above the outside temp. it doesn't have to be boiling. water turns to vapor more easily than you think. ever heard of evaporation? i don't think it's boiling outside. hmm. in other words, 180 is more than fine however, it is stupid for him to think he is doing his car any good. he has to drive it or sell it. what about the transmission, rear end, tires, ac system, etc? there are a lot more things that need to be used than just the engine.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
moisture in the oil burns off as long as your oil temp is above the outside temp. it doesn't have to be boiling. water turns to vapor more easily than you think. ever heard of evaporation? i don't think it's boiling outside. hmm....
Almost correct. Water/ice will turn to vapor at any given temperature except one....0 degree Kelvin. It just evaporates/sublimes at a VERY slow rate sometimes. And to the OP, i agree with other, the owner needs to actually drive the car in order to lube everything up.
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Almost correct. Water/ice will turn to vapor at any given temperature except one....0 degree Kelvin. It just evaporates/sublimes at a VERY slow rate sometimes. And to the OP, i agree with other, the owner needs to actually drive the car in order to lube everything up.
so is an engine at 0 kelvin sitting in the garage? how about when the engine is running?
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so is an engine at 0 kelvin sitting in the garage? how about when the engine is running?
Did i say the engine was at 0 degree Kelvin .......I meant that you don't just have to raise the temp of the water above the ambient temperture for it to evaporate.
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High oil temp might also mean a lean condition? Fuel filter?
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
moisture in the oil burns off as long as your oil temp is above the outside temp.
I wouldn't go that far. So if it's 30 deg F outside, and you start your Vette and only let it run until the oil temp is 31 deg F then turn it off you're saying all the moisture is out of the oil?

No way.

180 might be OK, but getting the engine hotter than that is even more insurance that all the internals are well hot enough to prevent cold spots which can act as condensation surfaces inside the engine.

It's a proven fact that engines used for short trips degrade the oil much more and much faster than engines ran at full operating temperatures all the time.

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