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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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So up to this point I have never used anything less then 93 in my 2000 C5, but recently I was talking to a buddy who claims he accidently put 87 in his C5 and it ran like a bat out of hell. He called another friend and was told that if the car is tuned for lower grade fuel that it will run better. He also said that if the car starts to make a pinging noise then to move up to 91 or 93. Any truth to this ? Thanks
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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dear god, tell me you didnt post another octane thread ......this post is gonna go on for days
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CamachoSF
dear god, tell me you didnt post another octane thread ......this post is gonna go on for days
Yep probably should have did a search for it, but at least I didnt post a thread about future gas prices.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Concidering the future gas prices........
If the octane will not cause any internal damage.......


never mind..........
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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I don't know how fast a bat out of hell runs....
BUT you can run the lowest level of octane that does not give knock or ping... if 87 works where ad how you drive your Vette it is fine.

Depending on your altitiude above sea level and ambient temperature that will vary.


With a Vararam, mine knocked at WOT in 1st with 94 Octane until I got a tune
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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IMO- gas formulation today is crappier than ever and you want to run a lower octane?!? I needed to tune it to the 93 octane I use...

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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Can't imagine it would run better but hey, give it a shot and see what happens.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Read your oners manual for the definitive answer.
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You get into a lot of trouble when you listen to your buddy's buddy. On a side note, there is such thing as too much octane. For a street car on pump gas though, you are not going to find that point.
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My Corvette on the stock tune runs fine on 87 octane. It does perform better with 91+ octane, but it does not ping or knock with 87 octane.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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With anything less than the recommended premium you WILL lose HP and your MPG WILL go down.

You can run the lower grade without major problems but it won't perform like it should.

If I wanted to use 87 octane I would have bought a car that didn't recommend premium. Saving a few bucks per tankfull seems silly in a Corvette. At least to me it does.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2C5
With anything less than the recommended premium you WILL lose HP and your MPG WILL go down.

You can run the lower grade without major problems but it won't perform like it should.

If I wanted to use 87 octane I would have bought a car that didn't recommend premium. Saving a few bucks per tankfull seems silly in a Corvette. At least to me it does.
It has nothing to do with saving a few bucks and everything to do with getting the maximum HP out of our Vettes Thanks for the replies
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudvayne387
It has nothing to do with saving a few bucks and everything to do with getting the maximum HP out of our Vettes Thanks for the replies
if it never had anything to do with money....nevermind, the higher octane will yeld higher compression before you start running into problems. almost common sense tells us that the higher compression you can achieve the higher the power output you will get.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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...this question hasn't been asked in a couple of weeks ...well, since fuel prices started going crazy...
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Originally Posted by red97vette
....nevermind, the higher octane will yield higher compression before you start running into problems. ...
Huh? Higher octane equates to higher compression?

Compression ratio is a function of volume inside cylinder when piston at TDC to volume inside cylinder when its at bottom of stroke. The smaller the space at the top, the higher your compression ratio. Its a bore, stroke, volume thing. Has nothing to do with octane.

Actually, the higher the octane of fuel, the lower it's explosive power.

Corvettes have anti knock smarts built into its computer. In stock form it can adjust to octane as low as 87. Its in the owner's manual; 87 is OK but you might notice a little degradation in power.

Who said using lower octane in a corvette will net you lower gas mileage? Any concrete proof of that? If so, I'm sure is quite insignificant.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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At the risk of "stealing" this thread, has anyone considered that if we were able burn straight ethanol (E100?) the octane levels would be in the 97 - 98 range. This in turn would allow compression ratios in the 11.5:1 - 12:1 range. At those levels, wouldn't we get equal or better performance, fewer emissions, and pay less money to OPEC?
Anyone with any information along these lines?
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ok can i use 91 octane?? or should i use 93?

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Originally Posted by rickko
Huh? Higher octane equates to higher compression?

Compression ratio is a function of volume inside cylinder when piston at TDC to volume inside cylinder when its at bottom of stroke. The smaller the space at the top, the higher your compression ratio. Its a bore, stroke, volume thing. Has nothing to do with octane.

Actually, the higher the octane of fuel, the lower it's explosive power.

Corvettes have anti knock smarts built into its computer. In stock form it can adjust to octane as low as 87. Its in the owner's manual; 87 is OK but you might notice a little degradation in power.

Who said using lower octane in a corvette will net you lower gas mileage? Any concrete proof of that? If so, I'm sure is quite insignificant.
Using fuels of a lower octane than the vehicle was calibrated to will cause increased "Knock Sensor (KS)" system activity. This will result in a net decrease in spark advance and thus poorer fuel economy. Using fuel of a higher octane than the vehicle was calibrated for will not increase fuel economy.

Source: http://autorepair.about.com/cs/gener...a022501a_2.htm
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Originally Posted by EPMM 03 C5
ok can i use 91 octane?? or should i use 93?

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91 is fine.
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