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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Since my car has been to the chevy dealer the shifter has always felt a little loose, but lately as well it would barely grind when going into gears.
I thought for sure it was the master cyl as we replaced the clutch/slave last year. Yesterday when I was driving it the shifter basically locked up, and i can't get it to move out of 3rd gear. On the way to the dealer I was messing with it trying to get out of third and into another gear and it worked, but when i went to shift again at the next light same problem. I thought it was somethin in the linkage causing it to happen, but the dealer said it seems to be the t56 tranny. Has anyone heard of one just blowing out of nowhere? I always change the fluid at least once a year, so im hoping thats not the problem and it is something simple. Any idea guys? I'm going crazy right now as I'm only 22 and invested alot into this car aready.
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What fluid have you been putting into it? Hopefully the normal GM rated ATF. Your car has a Borg Warner in it and if you used Mobil1 ATF, you are hosed. Good fluid for Tremecs but the worst for BW's.
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I use royal purple atf, and this time added lucas additive as well.
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What fluid have you been putting into it? Hopefully the normal GM rated ATF. Your car has a Borg Warner in it and if you used Mobil1 ATF, you are hosed. Good fluid for Tremecs but the worst for BW's.
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What fluid have you been putting into it? Hopefully the normal GM rated ATF. Your car has a Borg Warner in it and if you used Mobil1 ATF, you are hosed. Good fluid for Tremecs but the worst for BW's.
I think Rodney at RPM Transmissions might disagree with this statement...I've been running RP in mine for 3 years with no problems at all.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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The BW transmissions have paper blocker rings inside. Mobil1 ATF doesn't get along well with those rings and they will come apart or break down...whatever happens with them, the transmission gets trashed. I know, it happened to me. I hear the RP fluid is Ok, its just something in the Mobil1 fluid that is the issue and only on BW transmissions. A trans shop can be talk about this better than I.
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My tranny did have a slight drip to it, but what would that have to do witg it failing?
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Dripping fluid won't have anything to do with it failing unless it was out of fluid totally. My only concerns for you were having to do with the fluid type you put back into it. Your problem sounds more like the shift linkage has let loose out of its clamp. Maybe you bent a shift rod? Possibly the alignment pin has dropped down into the shaft hole and locked it up?
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The shop said the linkage "looked" okay, but they are really a bunch of idiots. My car has been in and out of there about 7 times, they couldnt even put a fuel filter in right! The stealership wants to pull the tranny and tear it apart when they aren't even sure what the problem is... If I drain the fluid and the tranny was bad, would there be metal flakes in it?
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I think I remember someone saying there is a magnet in there to grab particles but I could be wrong. I suggest you PM Bill Dearborn here in the forum as ask him. He's the mechanical guru or even Bill Curlee as he's more into the electrical but sure knows what he's doing.
You might want to check that alignment pin yourself though and see if its in its normal stowed position. Takes all of 10 minutes to find out. Remove the center console and open the shifter cover and look at the front of it and see if the pin is all the way up. While there, do the shifter alignment which take another 2 or 3 minutes.
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does this problem happen only when the car is on, or does it do it when its off too? and, its only happening in one gear, is that correct?
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It happens all the time, and i COULD yank it out of third, but thats the only gear i can get it back in. The shifter wont move any other way at all...
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I would confirm there is nothing at all wrong with the shifter linkage or the shifter base itself first, because you should always start with the easiest/cheapest solution, however that does sound like an internal trans issue I'm sorry to say.
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Originally Posted by AlwaysInBoost
I would confirm there is nothing at all wrong with the shifter linkage or the shifter base itself first, because you should always start with the easiest/cheapest solution, however that does sound like an internal trans issue I'm sorry to say.
This might turn into a for sale thread lol...
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
What fluid have you been putting into it? Hopefully the normal GM rated ATF. Your car has a Borg Warner in it and if you used Mobil1 ATF, you are hosed. Good fluid for Tremecs but the worst for BW's.
If your C5 is an MN6 and a '99 or earlier, then the blockers in the MN6 transmission are made up of a celulose based material(paper like).
For his 97 he would need to consider this...

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Anyone else have this problem ever?
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