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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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After reading the thread about broken valve springs, I'd like to have mine replaced now before they possibly fail on me. I'm wondering which replacement valve springs I should get. The engine is currently stock and will probably remain that way. I don't mind spending a little extra though to get something that may be stronger, even if it's not really needed at stock HP levels.

What would you recommend?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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After reading the thread about broken valve springs, I'd like to have mine replaced now before they possibly fail on me. I'm wondering which replacement valve springs I should get. The engine is currently stock and will probably remain that way. I don't mind spending a little extra though to get something that may be stronger, even if it's not really needed at stock HP levels.

What would you recommend?
PAC 1218s are a direct replacement of extremely high quality. The PAC 1518's are good to .650 lift, nitrated, and even better (more money too of course).
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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What about factory LS2 springs?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hpfiend
What about factory LS2 springs?
I thought the LS2 springs were the same as the LS6 ones?
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Your crazy don't replace the springs unless you replace the cam. Z06 springs don't brake that ofter or there would be a recall. Just drive it and have fun. There are people out there with over 100k miles and they haven't replaced there springs. just my .02
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Your crazy don't replace the springs unless you replace the cam. Z06 springs don't brake that ofter or there would be a recall. Just drive it and have fun. There are people out there with over 100k miles and they haven't replaced there springs. just my .02
I broke 2 springs in an early build 03 z06, both were at idle.. There will be no recalls unless it involves a safety issue. In mid 03 GM changed the part # for their springs. They turned out to be the ls2 spring.

There are plenty of stories of broken springs here on this forum, when they bumped up the cam size in the 02 z06 they started having breakages, I have had all my springs changed out to the ls2 springs and have not had a problem for 3 years now.. If you have an 02, or early 03 I would do this in a heartbeat, new engines are expensive
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Your crazy don't replace the springs unless you replace the cam. Z06 springs don't brake that ofter or there would be a recall. Just drive it and have fun. There are people out there with over 100k miles and they haven't replaced there springs. just my .02
I agree, let them alone. This forum is only a small sample of the Corvette population, plus people don't post comment unless bad things happen. For every broken spring, there are tens of thousands of springs that are just fine. The Z06 clutch sticks sometimes too, maybe you want to replace that? I know some people have bad gas gauges, maybe you should consider a new one? How about the CLB recall, might want to just buy a new column. Etc... If it ain't broke don't fix it...It's more work than you think and a pain in the butt...
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I agree that for every car that has had a failure there are far more than have been just fine. But it has happened enough times to be recognized as one of the likely places of failure on the LS6.

My Z06 is my daily driver and I'm willing to spend a couple of hundred dollars now to eliminate a point of failure rather than risk it happening at another time and causing thousands of dollars worth of damage, plus leaving my main vehicle disabled.

I installed a CLB for the same reason, even though mine hadn't failed yet. The clutch problem is easily remedied in 10 minutes using the Ranger Clutch method. I also changed my battery before the original failed because even though they all didn't leak, if it did leak it's a very costly repair.

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I agree, let them alone. This forum is only a small sample of the Corvette population, plus people don't post comment unless bad things happen. For every broken spring, there are tens of thousands of springs that are just fine. The Z06 clutch sticks sometimes too, maybe you want to replace that? I know some people have bad gas gauges, maybe you should consider a new one? How about the CLB recall, might want to just buy a new column. Etc... If it ain't broke don't fix it...It's more work than you think and a pain in the butt...
To be literal--there were only maybe 12,000 02-03 Z's made and so there's probably only 600 or so for every broken one on here. Out of the 599, who knows how many not reported or even still running. What if there's already been another 11 failures for each we know of plus many more to come as the cars get more miles? That'd be 1/50 now and maybe 1/25 in the future. Do you feel lucky?

But seriously...fixing the clutch just takes good fluid, the CLB is cheap enough, relative to the cost of a new column, are not new springs at $50 a set cheap enough compared to a new motor? Purely on the numbers, if you pay $700/yr to insure the car against an accident on the road, each and every year, isn't $50+ labor worth it for the motor which might be say 1/3 the cost of the whole car?

I see it as insurance. I buy the insurance because I can't afford a big loss on the street and I can't afford a new motor right now either.

PS--I did leave the column lock go and I would let the guages go too!!

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where are you guys getting the LS2 springs for 50.00?
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prc duals gold springs but do a cam while you are there and also if you are staing n/a do an underdrive pully system. You won't regret that you did that stuff. If your fixing unnecessary thing you might as well gain some hp out of it. just my .02 once again
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Isn't changing a cam considerably more involved than just changing the valve springs?
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Originally Posted by efranzen
Isn't changing a cam considerably more involved than just changing the valve springs?
Yes...But changing the springs is not a fun task.

Get the PP dual springs or the dual springs from texas speed. Either of them are under $300 bucks.
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where are you guys getting the LS2 springs for 50.00?
GM. There's a kit that includes all 16. Try Gene Culley. I didn't know about him & used another dealer in Kansas.
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sweet thanks! Add that to the DTE brace and I think I am about set on paranoia parts for a car I dont even have yet hehe
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The cam is more work for sure, but it would be worth it. The good thing is that if you only do the springs now, you can leave them alone when you do choose a cam. I would choose the newer Comp 918 springs.
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I have a good relationship with my Chevy service writer at Huffines Chevrolet.. He has been there for years. I'll ask him how many broken springs he has seen on the 02-04 Z06
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sweet thanks! Add that to the DTE brace and I think I am about set on paranoia parts for a car I dont even have yet hehe
Another waste of your money...Can I be your parts dealer? I'll get you the parts and do the installs.
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My dealership has only seen a few with broken LS6springs, Most are the LS7.. He remembers one LS6 that broke a spring had an aftermarket cam and springs and the owner being upset , because the warranty would not cover repairs Another Corvette Performance shop who deals with these on a daily bases told me they have never seen a stock Ls6 with a broken spring,, but has seen problems with the Ls7 springs breaking at his shop.. Makes me feel a little better as both the dealership and speed shop are high volume Corvette facilities in Dallas Tx
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My dealership has only seen a few with broken LS6springs, Most are the LS7.. He remembers one LS6 that broke a spring had an aftermarket cam and springs and the owner being upset , because the warranty would not cover repairs Another Corvette Performance shop who deals with these on a daily bases told me they have never seen a stock Ls6 with a broken spring,, but has seen problems with the Ls7 springs breaking at his shop.. Makes me feel a little better as both the dealership and speed shop are high volume Corvette facilities in Dallas Tx
David, you have nothing to worry about you have the new part # springs in your 04, they are the springs that they put in my car after the breakages,
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