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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Wanted to go for a ride last night when i got home from work and as soon as I got in and started her up I saw the display reading "service column". I wanted to just get going so I didn't pay much attention and thought it would just go away (I've only had the car for less than 1 month. 2002 EBZ06 - less than 8,000 miles - like brand new) as soon as I went to back up out of the driveway, i thought damn I just stalled the car. First time that's happened ! Tried it again - same thing. Now I'm getting annoyed. Pulled out the owners manual and thought - Oh, great. No wonder the thing keeps stalling out. Called the operation I bought the vehicle from (very reputable dealer that just sells used corvettes for many years) and he had me try a few things just to get by. They didn't work. My steering wheel isn't locked up. Just keep getting the turn off car and pull key and wait ten seconds. Then I get the service column displayed. As I'm sitting in the garage a little pissed and smoking a cigarette - i thought Let me check the forum and see if there is anything mentioned on there. Holy Smokes! 53 pages after i did a search in the tech forum.

Anyways the place i bought it from is 1.5 hrs away from me and they are aware of the issue and are planning on coming out this morning to fix the problem and bringing a roll back if needed to get it to their shop if they can't fix it in my garage.

I did get a vin information sheet from a CF member a few weeks ago on my Z06 - in the claims history section it reads that there was a steering wheel rotation sensor replaced on the car 2,000 miles ago. In the required field actions section it reads "electronic column lock system" with a posted date of N/A and status of "closed" - what does that mean, was it done or not ? I know there is a ton of info on the forum about this and I spent hours reading all your comments - i just needed to air i guess and hopefully I'll be riding in that blue rocket ship tonight !

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Should not be a big deal for them to fix, as you have read it's common.. Let us know what happen's..
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...buy a CLB or you will be doing this again.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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...buy a CLB or you will be doing this again.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Not sure why people haven't done the CLB as a preventative instead of waiting for it to happen then doing it???
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Not sure why people haven't done the CLB as a preventative instead of waiting for it to happen then doing it???
Oh ....believe me if it is true of what I have been hearing you can bet that I will be ordering one of these by this weekend.

This is all new to me for now.
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If it helps I got mine from Corvettes of Houston!
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This happened to me 4 weeks ago. I just grabbed the wheels and shook it hard from side to side to "shock" the little motor in the steering column.

Put key in, problem solved.
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Originally Posted by krazyKanuck
This happened to me 4 weeks ago. I just grabbed the wheels and shook it hard from side to side to "shock" the little motor in the steering column.

Put key in, problem solved.
Yeah ..... I don't have the problem of the wheel locking up.

Just when I want to go the fuel gets terminated to the engine !

Why I'm not so sure the CLB is going to help me out.
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Originally Posted by Awsom 71
Yeah ..... I don't have the problem of the wheel locking up.

Just when I want to go the fuel gets terminated to the engine !

Why I'm not so sure the CLB is going to help me out.
Ahhh.. hm, so the computer is thinking the column is locked - and in that scenario it shuts off fuel at 1.5 mph.

There's nothing worse in these cars than phantom electrical problems - it would be easier of the column actually WAS locked
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Originally Posted by krazyKanuck
This happened to me 4 weeks ago. I just grabbed the wheels and shook it hard from side to side to "shock" the little motor in the steering column.

Put key in, problem solved.
You do realize that it will happen again though right?! Did you order a CLB?
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This has happened in one scenario or another SO MANY of us. No disrespect to the OP but "what is CLB" should be required reading as part of the agreements to register for this website! It's that important!!
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Originally Posted by Quick Silver Z
This has happened in one scenario or another SO MANY of us. No disrespect to the OP but "what is CLB" should be required reading as part of the agreements to register for this website! It's that important!!
CLB = Column Lock Bypass

Correct ?

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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Well ..... they came and got my Z yesterday afternoon with a rollbed. Man that sucks watching your ride going down the road on the back of a truck. Now I have to sit and wait for them to call me and let me know what's going on and when I'll get it back.
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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Awsom 71
Well ..... they came and got my Z yesterday afternoon with a rollbed. Man that sucks watching your ride going down the road on the back of a truck. Now I have to sit and wait for them to call me and let me know what's going on and when I'll get it back.
Did you order the CLB ???????

If not, this won't be the last time you watch the car head off to the dealer on a rollback.

Also, I'd recommend you go and purchase some lubricant ..... you are about to be royally screwed.

The CLB and some help from members here ... you'd be spending about $50.00 to permanently fix the problem ...... let us know what the stealership charges to "fix" the problem ...... my guess is add another zero to what it would have cost you doing it the "forum" way.

Order that CLB .... you will be needing it.

http://www.corvettesofhouston.com/index.php?cPath=29_42

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Originally Posted by krazyKanuck
Ahhh.. hm, so the computer is thinking the column is locked - and in that scenario it shuts off fuel at 1.5 mph.

There's nothing worse in these cars than phantom electrical problems - it would be easier of the column actually WAS locked
You also need to order the CLB ....

http://www.corvettesofhouston.com/index.php?cPath=29_42

or you too will be watching the car drive away to a deealer.

Once the column is in the LOCKED position (even if the lockplate is removed) and the BCM senses it is not unlocking, the car will be immobilized. The CLB comes with a disposable wiring harness that can power the lock motor to UNLOCK position.

HOWEVER, if the column lock controller has failed, it continues to report the lock status as LOCKED to the BCM. The controller is a $500.00 part from the dealer.

If you install a CLB NOW, then the controller is permanently bypassed. Even if it fails in the future the CLB continues to tell the BCM the lock status is UNLOCKED.

Order that CLB ......

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More reading material while you wait for your shipment...

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24


http://97vette.com/howto/columnlock/index.html

Hopefully this is the worst thing that ever happens to your Z!
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Originally Posted by BlackZ06
Did you order the CLB ???????

If not, this won't be the last time you watch the car head off to the dealer on a rollback.

Also, I'd recommend you go and purchase some lubricant ..... you are about to be royally screwed.

The CLB and some help from members here ... you'd be spending about $50.00 to permanently fix the problem ...... let us know what the stealership charges to "fix" the problem ...... my guess is add another zero to what it would have cost you doing it the "forum" way.

Order that CLB .... you will be needing it.

http://www.corvettesofhouston.com/index.php?cPath=29_42


Not costing me a dime ...... I just bought it 3 weeks ago.

The owner of the used vette dealership (not a Chevrolet Dealer) is taking care of it. Christ - he even sent a rollback to pick it up at my house 2 hours away from his shop and is planning on delivering it back to me when completed. I talked to him on the phone yesterday and mentioned the CLB to him and he is looking into it. Who knows, maybe he will order one and install it for me. If not, I will be ordering one for sure.
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I've read the CLB causes feedback issues with the ECBM which could potentially fry it!! This is why I suppose hevy didnt use the CLB on one of the many recalls they had on this issue...

I'm no expert on this subject.. jsut something i came across while reading on the subject and am offering it up for consideration..

Anyhow.. she'll be good as new soon!! happy trails!!
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Originally Posted by Z06_BluByU
I've read the CLB causes feedback issues with the ECBM which could potentially fry it!! This is why I suppose hevy didnt use the CLB on one of the many recalls they had on this issue...

I'm no expert on this subject.. jsut something i came across while reading on the subject and am offering it up for consideration..

Anyhow.. she'll be good as new soon!! happy trails!!
Don't know where you read that the CLB could cause "feedback issues with the ECBM (sic) which could potentially fry it" .......

Whom ever wrote that had their head so far up their azz they were looking at their own tonsils ...... what

You find me ONE SINGLE occurance ..... anywhere on the net ..... can't happen, the CLB doesn't have anything to do with the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module).

There are thousands and thousands of C5 Corvettes using the CLB every day. The worst I've ever heard a failure in a CLB do is exxactly the same as if it had never been there .... the car displays the SERVICE COLUMN LOCK message if the CL controller has failed or the lock pin is stuck in the LOCKED position.


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