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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Davinss
There is nothing wrong with your car. You don't need to put anything back to stock. It you want to get 30mpg instead of 20mpg don't drive 80mph!!!
Ummmm no. My car which is stock averges about 28MPG around 70-75. I have not done a long enoug cruise at 80 to see what it averages, but I know its not an 8mpg delta.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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I picked my car up from florida and drove it all the way up too new york (appx 1000 miles). Averaged 28 mpg with speeds fluctuating from 65 to 90
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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If your car is getting lean codes, then obviously something is wrong. You could have an air leak, bad O2 sensor, or something else, but be sure of one thing: If you have lean codes, the computer is also trying to add fuel, which is going to hurt mileage, especially cruise mileage. Most relatively stock Z06s don't have a problem getting upper 20's at 70-75, steady state cruise.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
Ummmm no. My car which is stock averges about 28MPG around 70-75. I have not done a long enoug cruise at 80 to see what it averages, but I know its not an 8mpg delta.
I beg to differ. If you looked at the test I did, 70 mph equated to approximately 31 mpg, 80 mph equated to approximately 23 mpg. Personal driving habits will have a large impact on individual mileage, but it's pretty clear where the mileage drops off in these cars. In my car, on flat ground, while on cruise control, above 70 mph it drops off significantly.

Obviously there are no absolutes and your mileage may vary.

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by meldog21
I beg to differ. If you looked at the test I did, 70 mph equated to approximately 31 mpg, 80 mph equated to approximately 23 mpg. Personal driving habits will have a large impact on individual mileage, but it's pretty clear where the mileage drops off in these cars. In my car, on flat ground, while on cruise control, above 70 mph it drops off significantly.

Obviously there are no absolutes and your mileage may vary.

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My tests were done on long cruises over flat ground of a full tank of gas. For instance when I purchased my car I drove 1100 miles with only fuel stops along I-10. I have also driven direactly from BG to Houston with only fuel stops.

So, I am basing my mileage numbers on steady state highway driving for a full tank of fuel. I have done shoter runs where I can maintain 80 MPH for shorter periods, but I have not been able to maintain 80MPH for an extended period of time such as a full tank.

I will re-check again on my next trip, but I do not believe my experience has been nearly that dramatic in 5MPH.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron78Z&66Vette
Actual MPG (fuel economy) in itself really isn't a "concern", but I AM a bit concerned that my apparently well below mpg may be a symptom of something mechanically wrong (hope that made sense).

Tires are stock sized Wide Ovals on stock wheels, so I can take that out of the equation.

I was under the impression that if anything the Vara-Ram would increase mileage, but I can see the argument that if the car thinks it's too lean it could very well be injecting more fuel to compensate.

I'll have to use the scanner to take some readings next time as well.
Some of your problem is the tires. I have WOs on my Z but I also have a complete set of SC tires on rims that I can put on the car. When I went to the WOs my mileage dropped by 2 mpg. A couple of months ago I put the SCs on to use them at the track and for some cruising. I gained back my 2 mpg. Not sure what the difference is other than the WOs may have more rolling resistance.

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Since new, my 2001 Z06 consistently gets 29 to 30 mpg on the highway (running cruise control between 70 and 75 mph). In town, I am all over the map, anywhere from 17 to 21, depending on time stuck in traffic, how heavy my foot is (I use 3K rpm as my normal shift point for 1, 2, and 3), and the mix of interstate and city streets on my drive.

I always use 93 Octane Shell. I believe it makes a difference. I've talked to people using regular, and mid-grade gas. The on-board computer adjusts the tuning for the lower octane. Just going to the mid-grade gas drops 10 to 15 % of the rwhp and, I believe, significantly reduces gas mileage.

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Some of your problem is the tires. I have WOs on my Z but I also have a complete set of SC tires on rims that I can put on the car. When I went to the WOs my mileage dropped by 2 mpg. A couple of months ago I put the SCs on to use them at the track and for some cruising. I gained back my 2 mpg. Not sure what the difference is other than the WOs may have more rolling resistance.

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If the WO's have a larger diameter (I know the tire size is the same but maybe they are taller anyway, just as WO's seem to have less treadwidth than other 295s), then the car will be traveling faster than the computer thinks it's going and will therefor calculate a poorer MPG than it would with a smaller tire, despite the fact that in reality, you will be getting better MPG than a smaller tire.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Put the stock airbox on and reload the stock tune. The car might actually be faster in stock form.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Some of your problem is the tires. I have WOs on my Z but I also have a complete set of SC tires on rims that I can put on the car. When I went to the WOs my mileage dropped by 2 mpg. A couple of months ago I put the SCs on to use them at the track and for some cruising. I gained back my 2 mpg. Not sure what the difference is other than the WOs may have more rolling resistance.

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I though I was the only one to think that, my highway mileage dropped probably close to 2 mpg also when I switched to WO's, however, my tire life mileage went up significantly.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ptindall
If the WO's have a larger diameter (I know the tire size is the same but maybe they are taller anyway, just as WO's seem to have less treadwidth than other 295s), then the car will be traveling faster than the computer thinks it's going and will therefor calculate a poorer MPG than it would with a smaller tire, despite the fact that in reality, you will be getting better MPG than a smaller tire.
Specs say they are the same diameter. They also have the same width. The GY just has a flat tread while the FS tread rolls over more on the edge which is still usable under hard cornering.


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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1GMC
I though I was the only one to think that, my highway mileage dropped probably close to 2 mpg also when I switched to WO's, however, my tire life mileage went up significantly.
Yes, they have 10/32 tread depth which also means they will squirm more when compared to an SC tire that only has 8/32 of tread brand new.

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Reading this thread makes me think I am not getting the mileage out of my car that I should be able to get. I drive 31 miles each way to work and usually on reach 60 MPH or so. I only have 2 redlights during this trip. My car according to my records, over 20k miles, I have averaged 25.1 MPG. My car is bone stock. Oil changed every 5k miles, new air filter every 15k. I have not checked the plugs to see what they look like.

Any thoughts on this one? Think the mileage should be better? I am usually pretty easy on the car. I may change gears at around 2500 RPM through the first 3 gears. Then just lazily shift into 6th and cruise to work.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie 70
Reading this thread makes me think I am not getting the mileage out of my car that I should be able to get. I drive 31 miles each way to work and usually on reach 60 MPH or so. I only have 2 redlights during this trip. My car according to my records, over 20k miles, I have averaged 25.1 MPG.
I would not worry, that is pretty much what you should get.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
Ummmm no. My car which is stock averges about 28MPG around 70-75. I have not done a long enoug cruise at 80 to see what it averages, but I know its not an 8mpg delta.
Yes there is an 8mpg difference from 70 to 80mph...
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Originally Posted by Davinss
Yes there is an 8mpg difference from 70 to 80mph...

Don't buy it.

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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Davinss
Yes there is an 8mpg difference from 70 to 80mph...
Depends on how level the road is and winds

Last year returning from Los Vegas
I averaged 35 mpg at 85mph (on cruse) towing my race trailer through NM and Arizona


I didn't get any where near that on the way out (27.5)
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Install a wideband O2 sensor and monitor the AFR while cruising - works everytime!
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 02:18 AM
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As previously posted, with a fully loaded trunk, a passenger and a slightly modded engine (headers, intake, exhaust, tuning, etc.), from NJ to FLA round trip, 28-29 mpg @ 75-80 mph. When cruising at the speed limit my mileage actually exceeded 30-31. After installing all the stuff I did, Doug at ECS tuned it. When I asked him how all the mods would affect mileage he said that after the tune it should go up slightly, which it did.
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Originally Posted by TA
That's the only way to do it. You can't rely on the computer.
If the DIC computer is working well, it's pretty close. I've compared the DIC MPG to the pencil calculated MPG, and the DIC usually reads only 3~5% higher.

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