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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Ummm...sounds like my car
500 hp, automatic, steers like it's on rails, authoratative sound on acceleration...

The secret to having mods done is to address all the areas.
Besides adding to the power, my Mallett conversion included some serious work on the steering/suspension/ride aspect.
Good luck on your 'gentleman's C5'.

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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
......Just put on some non-run flats (GY GS-D3s are excellent if you don't want run-flats)......................

A blackwing and a tune will finish things off. Good luck!

Good ideas, thanks

Non-runflats - - General UHP's being installed now
Blackwing - - Vararam CAI on order
Tune - - ECM mail-order tune just done by Chuck CoW

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Originally Posted by 99mallett
Ummm...sounds like my car
500 hp, automatic, steers like it's on rails, authoratative sound on acceleration...

The secret to having mods done is to address all the areas.
Besides adding to the power, my Mallett conversion included some serious work on the steering/suspension/ride aspect.
Good luck on your 'gentleman's C5'.


Ooooooooooooooooooooh, this is nice work, looks great...........

Please tell - what kind of steering mods have you done to make it "steer like it's on rails"?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevy-SS
Good ideas, thanks

Non-runflats - - General UHP's being installed now
Blackwing - - Vararam CAI on order
Tune - - ECM mail-order tune just done by Chuck CoW

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Sounds like you are there
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealthy4
Ride - Hopefully your car came with F55 suspension. If not add it to the car. Its soft when you want it and stiff when you want it. Best of both worlds. It can be added to the car with some work.

Ride Height - F55 retains that stock height

Handling - F55 will take care of this too

Interior Noise – its been a while since i did my soun damper installation but as i recall there are two forms of noise. One is where the panel itself vibrates and acts like a giant speaker. For this, people paint that gray paint everywhere and it basically thicken th panel so it wont fibrate. The second form is transmission of sound. Once the sound clears the panel, it vibrates the air and you hear it. For this, people were installing "rubber" foam to absorb any remaining noise.

Stereo system - Define stock looking? You can either retain the stock head unit or go with an aftermarket unit. If you go aftermarket, you can either retain the factory center console by purchasing a 1 or 1.5 DIN head unit or you can have the guys on the forum build you a double DIN center console for a navigational head unit. Either way you can retain the factory look on the center console. The stereo system is relatively easy to upgrade. People on this forum make and sell the adpater plates so you can stick upto an 8" speaker in the door. Most go with some sort of 6-6.5" component system. If you want a subwoofer, people make boxes that fit in the rear storage compartment and can even be hidden by the stock carpeted cover. The biggest problem is where to put an amp or two. I tried to desgn a system for a long time where the amps and sub could all be hidden and its virtually impossible unless you build false floors (PITA). I finally just stopped trying. Maybe ill just get small amps and put them behind the seats. Most people just bolt one on the rear wall right above the center compartment. Buts its only good for 1 amp and it is noticable.


Exterior Noise levels – I would shoot with a corsa touring. Its completely stock unless you put the hammer down. theres no resonance either.

Engine Performance – Depending on the performance levels you want, you could do a heads and cam and just keep a smooth cam. Superchargers are ok but they do whine.

Transmission – you can have the auto built to handle the power but add a good torque converter and a good tune. it makes a world of difference.

Tires – Goodyear GSD3

Colors – personal preference

Safety – leave all the airbags, seatbelts, and seats stock. If you go with a heavy subwoofer. make sure its bolted down so it doesnt fly out in the event of an accident.

For the record, the corvette was built mostly to be a gentlemens cruiser with the option of making it into a racecar. Not the opposite.
Especially with the highligted part.

I have the F55. Its pricey if you need to replace it, but there is a reason Ferrari obtained a license agreement with GM to replicate this suspension in some of their cars.

I still have run-flats but I have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZPs. Really good run flat, quiet and enables me to run my C5 as a daily driver in MD.

To each his or her own, but IMHO, I don't see the point of modding for power unless:

a. you have plenty of cash to mod

b. you enjoy modding

c. you plan to use the extra power on the track

d. you have plenty of cash to mod.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Not just a Ferrari either. Its their top of the line 599 GTB. The new ZR1 uses it too! There is a reason...you are right.

I actually have the same tire A/S ZP and i like it, but there are better performing tires that cost less if you dont mind a non runflat. For runflats the Michelin is pretty good...i agree.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Here is your car Sir!

I was just about to post that
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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sounds like u should be driving a lexus..instead of a vette.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Here you go...but it's an M6.
^^^The Original Gentleman's Cruiser ^^^
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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sounds like you should just leave it stock....or buy a Cadalliac CTS-V
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Here you go...but it's an M6.
listen to kevin !!
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Here's how I'd set up a car to do those things

-Performance - Gear swap and torque converter, lt headers through a Z06 titanium catback, and a cai should make for a pretty fun car without sacrificing any durability or driveability. A tune will bring it all together.

-Ride - I was happy with the ride of my Kumho non-runflats, but you may have different tire preferences. Handling was pretty good, rain or shine. I'd leave the stock suspension alone, especially if it was an F55.

-Looks/Interior - Closed cell sound deadening foam does wonders for road noise. I'd probably go for HID headlights and LED interior lights for a bit better useability at night and a bit of a cool factor. Otherwise leave the exterior stock. If you aren't against window tinting I find 35% is a good compromise with being able to see at night and still keeping interior temps down.

Color - Magnetic Red, Navy Blue, or Black
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Originally Posted by Choreo
Holy crap!

By my count there are 14 emblems in the interior alone (counting the C5 embroidery). I don't think you'll forget what type of car you are driving.
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Originally Posted by redls1gto
Holy crap!

By my count there are 14 emblems in the interior alone (counting the C5 embroidery). I don't think you'll forget what type of car you are driving.
At my age you need all the reminders you can get!
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Originally Posted by dwdrummer
you can probably get a good deal on a cadillac!!!!




I also agree, its a vette, even bone stock there loud, ride rough, and not even being lowered you still have to watch the road.
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Originally Posted by Chevy-SS
Good ideas, thanks

Non-runflats - - General UHP's being installed now
Blackwing - - Vararam CAI on order
Tune - - ECM mail-order tune just done by Chuck CoW

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Thanks fella! So, tell me what your favorite part of my tune is...

And don't you dare tell me it was the price!



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I also agree, its a vette, even bone stock there loud, ride rough, and not even being lowered you still have to watch the road.
I respectfully disagree. My C5 is pretty quiet for the most part. It sounds like a sports car should with my Corsa Tourings. It has the F55 so it doesn't ride rough.

I do agree with having to watch the road even at stock height
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Originally Posted by Chevy-SS
Ooooooooooooooooooooh, this is nice work, looks great...........

Please tell - what kind of steering mods have you done to make it "steer like it's on rails"?
Package included Penske gas charged shocks, upgraded sway bars (larger diameter & stiffer), uprgaded bushings, and re-aligned to accomodate the shorter shocks.
The suspension mods made a huge difference in handling. The ride is stiffer and tighter feeling, but not rough. There is a lot less roll when cornering. Even with the extra horsepower, it is very difficult to burn the tires on takeoff...they just hook up and go.
Took it on the Tail of the Dragon in Tennesee last year (319 curves in 11 miles), and left my buddy in his stock C5 in the dust.
It lowered the ride height quite a bit, and it does tend to scrape in a few places, but you get used to it.
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Originally Posted by 99mallett
Package included....... The ride is stiffer and tighter feeling, but not rough. .......
It lowered the ride height quite a bit, and it does tend to scrape in a few places, but you get used to it.

Ouchie, stiffer is only good in the bedroom IMO! And lowering is out of the question for a "Gentleman's C5". The roads around me suck, and I'd be rattling my teeth loose and scraping the bottom off the car.

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