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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Does the overdrive gear remain the same ratio to the wheels? I'm looking to maintain good highway fuel economy for crusing, but the idea of more low end torque makes me go
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with my 4.10s, i still cruise at 75 in 6th @ 2000RPM so the engine is still barely lugging along.
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Not sure of the exact numbers but I rev at about 2600 RPM at 70 MPH (used to rev about 2400)...I may have lost about 1 mpg but still running about 27.5 mpg with 418 at the wheels
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with my 4.10s, i still cruise at 75 in 6th @ 2000RPM so the engine is still barely lugging along.
J, he's got an A4...but very respectable cruising revs for 4.10 gears
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With the cruise control on, I get between 28-30mpg at 65-80mph. if i can stay in that range, i'll be sold.
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Has anyone upgraded from the 2.73 to 3.15 gears? It seems to be a buyer's market with all the 3.15 cars upgrading to the 3.42s. I'm not trying to build a race car, I just want sometihng that won't embarass me on the street. here's what 'm thinking:

Mike-Mercury's TC: ~$200 (possibaly $180 for rebuilt)
3.15 gears: ~$375-400
Installation ~$400-500

If i can get this done for $1000, I'll be extatic. I'm not sure if my OEM parts are worth anything though.
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Maybe this will help.
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Thanks for posting that gear/mph table...I just leeched it for my file

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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Has anyone upgraded from the 2.73 to 3.15 gears? It seems to be a buyer's market with all the 3.15 cars upgrading to the 3.42s. I'm not trying to build a race car, I just want sometihng that won't embarass me on the street. here's what 'm thinking:

Mike-Mercury's TC: ~$200 (possibaly $180 for rebuilt)
3.15 gears: ~$375-400
Installation ~$400-500

If i can get this done for $1000, I'll be extatic. I'm not sure if my OEM parts are worth anything though.
That will be a really good value in performance improvement for $1k.

Do it!
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I think that you would be happier with the 3.42 gears in the A4. You won't loose that much gas mileage and you'll have SOTP improvement!!
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Awesome mod, That why when i bought mione i looked for only z51 and 6 spd...got the factory 3.42's.
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To answer your question: No - the final drive ratio in each gear changes when you swap to a new diff ratio, including the overdrive gear. The final drive ratio is a function of the gear the tranny is in at any one moment and the diff ratio. It's a fixed mechanical relationship. The power is transmitted through the tranny gear set and then the diff gear set. When you change the ratio in the diff, the resulting final drive ratio in each gear is changed accordingly. In the case of switching from 2.73 gears to 3.42, the rpm's are increased 25% in each gear.
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Originally Posted by DRKMATTER
Thanks for posting that gear/mph table...I just leeched it for my file

Thanks Bill, that's a good post.
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Originally Posted by moserbe
I think that you would be happier with the 3.42 gears in the A4. You won't loose that much gas mileage and you'll have SOTP improvement!!
I had 3:15s and changed to 3:42's. I added a Yank 3500, heads ,cam, and some other stuff and mileage dropped from 31 to 28 at 75-85 highway cruising. Since a lot of the 6 speed guys are changing to lower gears, there are some 3:42s available a good prices.
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Originally Posted by moserbe
I think that you would be happier with the 3.42 gears in the A4. You won't loose that much gas mileage and you'll have SOTP improvement!!

It's more of a question of availability and price. The 3.42 gears seem to be $200-300 more expensive than similar condition 3.15 gears....plus it would allow me to keep some top end.

If i happen upon a 3.42 bargin, I will certainly consider it.
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If you want to swap out just the gears, I'm not sure you can do that. Unless things have changed, you can't go from 2.73's to 3.15's using the same "Pumpkin" (the 2.73 housing is too small)...you would need a whole new rear housing for the 3.42's

(you can go from factory 3.15's cause they used the same housing as the 3.42's)
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Originally Posted by 4GTABODT
If you want to swap out just the gears, I'm not sure you can do that. Unless things have changed, you can't go from 2.73's to 3.15's using the same "Pumpkin" (the 2.73 housing is too small)...you would need a whole new rear housing for the 3.42's

(you can go from factory 3.15's cause they used the same housing as the 3.42's)
Understood. I've seen 3.15 gears-in-carriers going for $350-400. I suppose swapping to 3.42s at a later date wouldn't be too difficult then.
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Understood. I've seen 3.15 gears-in-carriers going for $350-400. I suppose swapping to 3.42s at a later date wouldn't be too difficult then.
I have 3.15 in my car and I tell you what, Just go the 3.42 gears now.
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Understood. I've seen 3.15 gears-in-carriers going for $350-400. I suppose swapping to 3.42s at a later date wouldn't be too difficult then.

Actually, thats not a bad all-in price...and yep, you would have the option of putting 3.42's down the road in the 3.15 housing
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