[Z06] Z06 Brake question
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Racer
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Z06 Brake question
I'm having trouble finding c5 Z06 brake information. Basically I want to upgrade to the Z06 brakes but I can't find anything on how much better they are, specifications, etc.
Will I need different rotors?
Will I need different rotors?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
As far as I can recall, I believe all C5's, including Z06's, were outfitted with identical rotors and calipers (except the Z06 calipers are painted red; otherwise they're the same piece underneath the paint). The only difference is that the Z06 had different brake pads. I've heard of a lot of C5 owners upgrading to the Z06 pads and reporting excellent improvements. So, basically if you buy and install Z06 brake pads, you'll have the same "brakes" as a Z06.
Am I right on this guys?
Am I right on this guys?
Last edited by Alaskanpilot; May 27, 2009 at 07:25 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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Get some Slotted Rotors (Powerslot, EBC or something along those lines) and some Hawk Ceramic Pads. The Ceramic IMO are great for the simple reason they REDUCE brake dust to almost Nothing.
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I've heard the CarboTechs are better when it comes to dust.
If you want increased braking performance I recommend NAPA rotors and CarboTech pads. If you are going for looks, just about anything goes, other than the Hawk DTC pad for the reasons identified above.
Last edited by Iowa_Z06; May 29, 2009 at 02:16 PM.
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Stay away from the Hawk DTC pads. They are strictly for tracking and need to be at temperature to work (i.e. on the street you will hit the car in front of you). If you go Hawks go the HPS.
I've heard the CarboTechs are better when it comes to dust.
If you want increased braking performance I recommend NAPA rotors and CarboTech pads. If you are going for looks, just about anything goes, other than the Hawk DTC pad for the reasons identified above.
My car is not daily driven and rarely sees a track.
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
Stay away from the Hawk DTC pads. They are strictly for tracking and need to be at temperature to work (i.e. on the street you will hit the car in front of you). If you go Hawks go the HPS.
I've heard the CarboTechs are better when it comes to dust.
If you want increased braking performance I recommend NAPA rotors and CarboTech pads. If you are going for looks, just about anything goes, other than the Hawk DTC pad for the reasons identified above.
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So for Hawk the rate of aggression/dust is like this:
Street: Performance Ceramic; HPS; HP+
Track: Black; Blue; HT; DTC
HP+ and up the dust is down right nasty and stains wheels and your paint.
The Carbotech Bobcat is a very good pad too. For street cars and tow vehicles. They brake hard enough and wear like iron. We are running the AX6 pad on my friends S2K for autocross. They work very good. I wouldn't pick them as a street pad though. Nasty little buggers for dust and they squeek. Then the XP family is pure track much like the HT and DTC from Hawk.
Either way I've been happy with both vendors.
Graham
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Hello neighbor!!
Pretty correct on the Hawk stuff.
Hawk HPS - semi metallic street pad. Basically medium everything and a good overall street pad
Hawk Performance Ceramic - for those that simply hate brake dust. Ceramic is a bit of a misnomer but these are decent performing for a ceramic pad. Most ceramic pads don't really like to stop well.
Hawk HP+ A pretty aggressive street pad. Very streetable as far as bite goes - GREAT for auto cross - limited track performance
Hawk Blue/Black - forget these - there are much better race pads - these are for lighter/slower cars.
Hawk HT-10 - Street tire track pad
Hawk HT-14 - R-comp or 'fast' street tire pad
DTC-60 - improved HT-10
DTC-70 - improved HT-14
The DTC's was not so much about adding friction - it was more to increase overall performance so things like rotor wear, modulation etc were addressed.
The pad we WANT them to make is the DTC-30. I assure you it rocks if you want a very aggressive street pad.
Pretty correct on the Hawk stuff.
Hawk HPS - semi metallic street pad. Basically medium everything and a good overall street pad
Hawk Performance Ceramic - for those that simply hate brake dust. Ceramic is a bit of a misnomer but these are decent performing for a ceramic pad. Most ceramic pads don't really like to stop well.
Hawk HP+ A pretty aggressive street pad. Very streetable as far as bite goes - GREAT for auto cross - limited track performance
Hawk Blue/Black - forget these - there are much better race pads - these are for lighter/slower cars.
Hawk HT-10 - Street tire track pad
Hawk HT-14 - R-comp or 'fast' street tire pad
DTC-60 - improved HT-10
DTC-70 - improved HT-14
The DTC's was not so much about adding friction - it was more to increase overall performance so things like rotor wear, modulation etc were addressed.
The pad we WANT them to make is the DTC-30. I assure you it rocks if you want a very aggressive street pad.
I'm running the Hawk Performance Ceramics on the street. That is their latest pad. Super low dust. Less stopping power than their HPS, which used to be their easiest going pad. The DTC is their top of the line race pad. Most certainly not for street. I do commute to the track with any race pad I buy. Carbotech or Hawk. You won't die if you do it. Just have to drag the brakes a bit the first couple of stops to get heat in them. I drove to work today on DTC70s. They'll kill rotors in short order though without enough heat.
So for Hawk the rate of aggression/dust is like this:
Street: Performance Ceramic; HPS; HP+
Track: Black; Blue; HT; DTC
HP+ and up the dust is down right nasty and stains wheels and your paint.
The Carbotech Bobcat is a very good pad too. For street cars and tow vehicles. They brake hard enough and wear like iron. We are running the AX6 pad on my friends S2K for autocross. They work very good. I wouldn't pick them as a street pad though. Nasty little buggers for dust and they squeek. Then the XP family is pure track much like the HT and DTC from Hawk.
Either way I've been happy with both vendors.
Graham
So for Hawk the rate of aggression/dust is like this:
Street: Performance Ceramic; HPS; HP+
Track: Black; Blue; HT; DTC
HP+ and up the dust is down right nasty and stains wheels and your paint.
The Carbotech Bobcat is a very good pad too. For street cars and tow vehicles. They brake hard enough and wear like iron. We are running the AX6 pad on my friends S2K for autocross. They work very good. I wouldn't pick them as a street pad though. Nasty little buggers for dust and they squeek. Then the XP family is pure track much like the HT and DTC from Hawk.
Either way I've been happy with both vendors.
Graham
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Infantsam - Hey neighbor. There are a few Z's around here. Don't see them much though. I caught up with one last night on 540 on the way home. Btw, never used the Hawk Blue/Black. They have been around forever and make good low cost track day pads. I used to AX on HP+ pads on a C4. I was going to try an HT14/HT10 setup. Ended up using DTC70s cause I got them used from a racing team. About 90% meat still on the pad, for half price :-)
Speedyhawk101. Sounds like you have the same ones as I do for street. They wear pretty darned good and are super low dust. Fine for street and a few hard braking stops. Definitely not a performance pad in my mind. Even though they call them that.
Speedyhawk101. Sounds like you have the same ones as I do for street. They wear pretty darned good and are super low dust. Fine for street and a few hard braking stops. Definitely not a performance pad in my mind. Even though they call them that.
