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Old May 28, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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The more I've learned about C4's, the more I've come to understand there isn't such a thing as "The C4". Instead over its 12 year run it was at least two very different cars - the early model years versus the late ones and, perhaps arguably even another basic contrast between the '84 and everything that came later. Although the exterior skin remained much the same, under the skin virtually everything changed: engines, transmissions, suspensions, interiors and emission systems.

That made me wonder if something similar happened over the shorter run of the C5's and if anyone has a moment to give me their view I'd much appreciate the education.

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The more I've learned about C4's, the more I've come to understand there isn't such a thing as "The C4". Instead over its 12 year run it was at least two very different cars - the early model years versus the late ones and, perhaps arguably even another basic contrast between the '84 and everything that came later. Although the exterior skin remained much the same, under the skin virtually everything changed: engines, transmissions, suspensions, interiors and emission systems.

That made me wonder if something similar happened over the shorter run of the C5's and if anyone has a moment to give me their view I'd much appreciate the education.

Thanks!

John
Body the same on the coupe and vert thoughout the run

FRC like mine came out in 1999-2000. 2001 It was called the Z06 and had 385hp then 405hp with the Ls6 motor

Small changes in the motor pretty much the same 1997-2000. 2001 5hp bump and 10tq still the same ls1 though.

Again small changes nothing like the C4 which in 1991 had a bumper change and then in 1992 the way more powerful Lt1.
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Many thanks. The very few changes in the C5 perhaps speak to a better engineered car (and also perhaps to significant advances in modeling and testing over 20 years). John
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Many thanks. The very few changes in the C5 perhaps speak to a better engineered car (and also perhaps to significant advances in modeling and testing over 20 years). John
C5 was suppose to come out in 1993 so there was a bunch of time for engineering.
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If the C5 had had a longer run, we might have seen some of those types of changes in it. But Maybe GM/Chevy has seen the light and we won't see that long of a run again. (tongue in cheek, fingers crossed)
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Heck, just the changes from the 96 to 97 were pretty awesome engineering wise.
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1997
• Completely new, redesigned Corvette. Base (FE1) and Z51 (FE3) suspension packages.
• All Z51 cars include: Power Steering Cooler
• 97-00 C5 LS1's produce 345 HP @ 5600 RPM and 350 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM.

1998
• Convertible becomes available
• Active Handling becomes available late in year
• The two slots of a 1998 (and possibly late 1997s) curve toward the rear at the bottom. (versus straight down)

1999
• 26# injectors substituted for 28#
• Fuel pump revised to reduce noise
• FRC "Fixed Roof Coupe" aka the hardtop, becomes available. All FRC's are MN6 (6-speed) cars with the Z51 suspension package, and are about 60lbs lighter than coupes.
• HUD introduced
• Only one line in driver's side fuel rail cover (no fuel return line?)
• Power telescoping wheel becomes an option
• Steering hardware changed to combat wandering
• Door sill trim plates added

2000
• Millennium Yellow available
• "Thin Spoke" versus "wagon wheel" design wheels become standard.
• Pup cats added to all models for LEV emissions requirements (5hp loss relative to 97-99)
• Steel swaybar endlinks instead of plastic on Z51 equipped cars
• Z51 swaybar diameters grow (25.4/21.7 to 28.6/21.7 to 28.6/23.6 (note: new rear same as Z06)
• No keyhole on passenger side doorhandle
• Passenger airbag 'off' switch added to console (light by TC/AH button)

2001
• Return to 28# injectors for all models.
• Second Generation Active Handling
• Nassau Blue discontinued
• Alternator 'clutch' pulley added on A4 cars
• New soundproofing + foam in all cars
• Smaller keyfob
• Electrochromic dimming rearview and driver's mirrors
• Lighter AGM battery
• Thickness + Material in Convertible change
• Chrome exhaust tips for coupe + Convertible
• 85MM MAF with integral temp sensor (versus 74mm with separate plug for IAT)
• LS1 cam profile changed to: .500/0.500, 198/208 on 115.5LSA (From: 0.472/0.479, 202/210 on 117)
• All Corvettes now have the LS6 intake manifold
• All Corvettes now have the LS6 engine block (windage passages in block), which includes a beefier oil pump.
• LS1 changes result in new output of 350 HP @ 5200 RPM and 375 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM (MN6)
• Hardtop/FRC discontinued
• Stronger synchros in all transmissions
• Exhaust manifolds revised (5hp regained) - thin wall cast replacing SS manifolds
• Metal valvestem caps (late year)
• Torque Tube changed from metal-matrix composite to aluminum alloy 6061, increased in diameter from 55 to 63 mm.
• Driveshaft couplings have also been upgraded on manual-equipped models for additional strength and durability
• Introduction of the Z06, which has as differences:
• Hardtop body style
• Rear brake ducting
• Screened inlets on front fascia, without foglights
• F1 Supercar tires 265-17 front, 295-18 rear, on 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 (one inch wider, respectively
• New LS6 top-end with new style head design (10.5:1 compression, 64cc chamber), LS6 cam (0.525/0.525, 204/211 on 116) - 385hp
• M12 transmission with shorter gearing (1-2-3 analagous to MN6 with 3.90 rear diff
• Titanium exhaust system
• Lightweight windshield
• New, stronger clutch with redesigned master + slave cylinder
• Stronger rear differential (shotpeened ring gear)
• Red brake calipers (otherwise identical)
• Transmission overtemp warning light on DIC
• 6500 redline gauges with special checkering + Z06 font
• Redesigned PCV system to help combat oil burning
• Red LS6 Fuel Rail Covers (FRC's)
• FE4 Z06 suspension - uprated springs, bars (30mm/23.6mm), shocks (note front spring and rear bar same as Z51)

2002
• Z06 Changes:
• Z06 LS6 cam changed to: 0.551/0.547, 204/218 on 117.5
• Less restrictive intake airbox lid
• Descreened MAF
• Removal of pup-cats (total with changes = 405hp)
• Z06 shocks revised with less rebound for better launching
• Z06 brake pads revised for better stopping (generate more dust)
• Lighter, sodium filled valves w/ stronger valve springs
• Higher tension rings installed to prevent oil burning problems
• Slight piston redesign *
• Clutch strength upgraded.
• HUD available on Z06 (not avail '01 model year)
• Wheel supplier changed to Speedline, moved from forged to cast. Weight nearly identical
• Electron Blue color offered
• Steel endlinks changed to aluminum

2003
• Late model-year new fuel system design from C6's

2004
• Z06 shocks further refined. Accompanying upper front control arm bushing, and rear swaybar bushing changes.
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Perfect summary, Johnny B. Good. Many thanks! John
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