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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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I'm going with just a cam. I can't really justify spending over 8g's on my car for the S/C when I don't even track the car. So I called Chris at ECS and talked about options. I want a mean sounding cam, but one that is drivable. I am buying a second car (with the savings of NOT putting in a S/C) So my car won't be a DD. Spent a lot on her and I feel she deserves only to come out when it's nice
So any recommendations as to what cam I should tell Chris to install? I am also installing the Pfadt coil shocks and I think their sway bars. I am also in touch with Chip from CCW and buying new rims /tires (Nitto Invo's) but not sure as to what style. I love these two: SP20 & SP20A. You guy's and gals can help with that too I am going with 19x11.5 for the rear and 18x10 for the fronts
Oh. I will be selling my rims that are on the car now with the Vredestein's mounted on them. They should be available early Nov. if anyone is interested. Of course this is a heads-up, because I will be placing them in the for sale section. You can see them if you go into my profile and look in my garage. The tires are brand new, as the rims. All have less than 500 miles on them. Just PM me
Thanks for helping me make my decisions

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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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the LS6 engine is more than enough for all but the most professional drivers... go ask over on in the road racing section and hear form a few pro drivers... save the money for seat time, seat time, seat time..

modified engines are more prone to go boom on teh track!
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the LS6 engine is more than enough for all but the most professional drivers... go ask over on in the road racing section and hear form a few pro drivers... save the money for seat time, seat time, seat time..

modified engines are more prone to go boom on teh track!
you must of misunderstood. I don't track the car, at all
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you must of misunderstood. I don't track the car, at all
oh sorry... "reading is fundamental"

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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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"I'm going with just a cam. I can't really justify spending over 8g's on my car for the S/C alone when I don't even track the car."

Shop around 8K
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In the sale section you can buy complete blower kits (used) in the 3-4k range. New clutch is 1k... Can you turn wrenches?

I had a complete cam kit I bought piece by piece on the board.
$110 shipped for new Comp918 springs
$150 local for a Comp cam
$110 shipped for an SLP underdrive pulley
$40 for used hardened pushrods

I just sold it all to a friend for $425 because I knew I wouldn't be happy with just a cam. I'd want more power anyway, just like my last car. Next year I'll be buying a supercharger when the deal presents itself.

Also, I recommend a daily beater car. I bought a Ford Tarus at an auction; my co-workers can't believe I only paid $1900. It has kept 10,000 miles off my Corvette in the past 9 months. Worth every penny. Not to mention the fact that my Zo6 feels more "special" when it's taken out on sunny days.
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"I'm going with just a cam. I can't really justify spending over 8g's on my car for the S/C alone when I don't even track the car."

Shop around 8K
Not really, actually it was a Blower and a few other things, but I just said S/c to keep it short. Point is I don't really need a blower to just drive around and brag about it
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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In the sale section you can buy complete blower kits (used) in the 3-4k range. New clutch is 1k... Can you turn wrenches?

I had a complete cam kit I bought piece by piece on the board.
$110 shipped for new Comp918 springs
$150 local for a Comp cam
$110 shipped for an SLP underdrive pulley
$40 for used hardened pushrods

I just sold it all to a friend for $425 because I knew I wouldn't be happy with just a cam. I'd want more power anyway, just like my last car. Next year I'll be buying a supercharger when the deal presents itself.

Also, I recommend a daily beater car. I bought a Ford Tarus at an auction; my co-workers can't believe I only paid $1900. It has kept 10,000 miles off my Corvette in the past 9 months. Worth every penny. Not to mention the fact that my Zo6 feels more "special" when it's taken out on sunny days.
Exactly. I was really going for a blower (I got the $) but I don't really need 500+ hp for a street car. I was thinking about buying an 08 Z06, that would of satisfy my HP need, but I really like what I did to my car and want to keep it. So I opted for best of both worlds, I'm giving the car some more HP, buying a run around car and then taking the wife on a 2 wk cruise! Everyone is happy
The cam install is cheap enough (around $1800 with a Dyno) and then there is the Pfadt set up. I'll still have extra for a new set of wheels/tires.
I figured I could of went for an 08 ($58g) sold my car (20-25g) put 20g down and finance the difference for 24 months, but like I said, I REALLY love what I did to my 01 and want to keep her.
OH, I don't turn wrenches any more I rather pay you ...
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"I'm going with just a cam. I can't really justify spending over 8g's on my car for the S/C when I don't even track the car."

Shop around 8K
Sorry about the misprint...
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ok, so no more about what I WAS going to spend, I'm asking for some insight on what size cam I should put in so I can drive the car on the street and maybe some advice on what style rims out of the two I posted
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I can give my thoughts on the cam...

Lots of guys here will say go big or go home. I felt the same way with my last car.. I went bigger and bigger, then twin turbo'd it

Looking back, the best cam for a strong street car is in the mid220's up to 230ish... Keep the lift below .600 so the springs will last a couple years, and the lobe seperation (LSA) can be anything from a 112 which will give you the old school rumble and give a nice bump in midrange power, or 114 which will give a nice "burble" at idle and offer a nice flat torque range with power slightly higher in the rpm range compared to a 112.

The specs on the cam I just sold were 226/232 .588 .595 113+4

It would give a strong midrange, more exhaus duration the get the burnt gasses more time to leave, and have a healthy chop at idle. It would work well as a nitrous cam, N/A, and it not horrible for a blower in the future although there are better choices for that. It's a good balance. Works well with the M12 gearing N/A.
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Hey guy, you need to talk to Shawn at Ragin Racin 337-354-9970...they have the cam you need...go to there web site...Ragin Racin. there Lethal Z cam has a nice lope and is very good on driving the streets...plus makes crazy HP...
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Originally Posted by ~JOSHUA
I can give my thoughts on the cam...

Lots of guys here will say go big or go home. I felt the same way with my last car.. I went bigger and bigger, then twin turbo'd it

Looking back, the best cam for a strong street car is in the mid220's up to 230ish... Keep the lift below .600 so the springs will last a couple years, and the lobe seperation (LSA) can be anything from a 112 which will give you the old school rumble and give a nice bump in midrange power, or 114 which will give a nice "burble" at idle and offer a nice flat torque range with power slightly higher in the rpm range compared to a 112.

The specs on the cam I just sold were 226/232 .588 .595 113+4

It would give a strong midrange, more exhaus duration the get the burnt gasses more time to leave, and have a healthy chop at idle. It would work well as a nitrous cam, N/A, and it not horrible for a blower in the future although there are better choices for that. It's a good balance. Works well with the M12 gearing N/A.
Thank you very much. This is the advice I am looking for. I really don't know anything about a cam. You can say "schools in" for me on this.
I think I would go for power in the mid range since I don't really bring the rpm's up to the limiter (except in 1st and 2nd-sometimes). so I like the choice you recommend
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go 11.5 on the rear rims, leaves more room for tire selection. I have
18x11 and need at least 11.5 to run a 335 tire, 12 is to big and would probably require mini tubs, don't believe 11.5 will, check for sure and go for 11.5 I recommend. good luck, sounds like your plan will be really nice.
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I'm going with just a cam. I can't really justify spending over 8g's on my car for the S/C when I don't even track the car.......................Thanks for helping me make my decisions
Smart move
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If you ever plan on adding a big brake kit in the future, let the guys at CCW know so they can build the wheels to clear future brake upgrades!
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Not really, actually it was a Blower and a few other things, but I just said S/c to keep it short. Point is I don't really need a blower to just drive around and brag about it
I guess I do, 'cause I just bought one. Good luck with your cam.
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Why don't you ask the tuner, who is arguably a better source of information, what cam to put in? You're paying him for his time and knowledge, why not use it?
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If you ever plan on adding a big brake kit in the future, let the guys at CCW know so they can build the wheels to clear future brake upgrades!
Good advice, thanks. Didn't think of that
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Why don't you ask the tuner, who is arguably a better source of information, what cam to put in? You're paying him for his time and knowledge, why not use it?
Oh, I am. It's just that I would like to get some input from people with cams so when he gives me a choice I know what I want.
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