H-Pipe vs X-Pipe
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Factor H is mainly structural rigidity. Exhaust is a rapid SERIES of pressure wave pulses. It was learned a long time ago that you gain maximum HP/torque when there is a path for these pulses to help even the pressure. Ford has had crossover pipes on V8's since the 60's to the best of my recollection.The X is just a modern out growth of the H,,smoother blend,,no 90 degree bend/openings to disturb the flow. We're not talking major gains here..just a few,,as stated,,just makes the most of what you have. The new firing order of the LS ,with the basically straight through individual pipes lend itself to the odd put-put or motor boat idle sound when louder/free flowing mufflers are added(stockers mask it).An X gives a smoother blend of the pulses,,smoothing out the sound for aftermarket mufflers,,gaining a little bit of torque (mostly) and HP to boot. It also relieves most of the crackle-pop on deceleration as well. The most benefit would be seen with a set of long tubes and an X as close as practical to the header collectors. The main benefit for non-modded cars is sound improvement,,with a bit of efficiency thrown in the bargain. Hope this helps clarify the muddy waters a bit.
Also, I kinda like the crackle pop, wish I could cut down on drone but keep that.
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Race Director
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#24
Le Mans Master
Yes they will tame drone to some extent. Rode with a friend several years ago to Fun Fest in an 01 A4. Even though he had Corsa Touring,,there was a certain RPM range where there was a light but noticeable drone. He had a Corsa X-pipe installed there,,and it was totally gone on the ride home and there was a noticeable smoothing effect to the overall sound!! I'm sure it is NOT going to work miracles,,but it WILL be of some help. Maybe from unbearable to just kinda annoying? It could make the difference if it is just kind of borderline annoying and bring it to tolerable!!The blending of pressure CAN take the edge off of what would be a resonant wave. Sound is VERY subjective,,one mans noise is another mans music!! Give it a try and see.
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just in case you have not seen the picture on my web-site, i took a picture showing the restricted factory H, this image illustrates why it is so restricted. the X-pipes from Bassani, MagnaFlow and WCC are all completely open.
Click here for the original X-pipe, developed by Bassani and currently on sale, 10% OFF and FREE ground shipping.
Click here for MagnaFlow X-pipe.
Click here for WCC X-pipe
I hope this helps.
Todd
East Coast Corvettes
Click here for the original X-pipe, developed by Bassani and currently on sale, 10% OFF and FREE ground shipping.
Click here for MagnaFlow X-pipe.
Click here for WCC X-pipe
I hope this helps.
Todd
East Coast Corvettes
Last edited by Todd@EastCoastCorvettes; 11-03-2009 at 10:41 AM. Reason: Bassani Exhaust Sale
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How about HP? Which one makes the most? I am not talking about what is written in a sales brochure. Dyno numbers? Anyone? I have the 12649 Borla exhaust and SCCA stock rules will let me change the h-pipe as long as I leave the cats. I want the most power, regardless of sound.
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How about HP? Which one makes the most? I am not talking about what is written in a sales brochure. Dyno numbers? Anyone? I have the 12649 Borla exhaust and SCCA stock rules will let me change the h-pipe as long as I leave the cats. I want the most power, regardless of sound.
i was there when the bassani was dynod back in 1999 i think and the #'s listed are what we saw on the dyno, it showed a peak 6hp and 8 ftlbtq. there was a gain for both #'s all the way across the graph, but those are the peak #'s and what everyone advertises.
Todd
East Coast Corvettes
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How about HP? Which one makes the most? I am not talking about what is written in a sales brochure. Dyno numbers? Anyone? I have the 12649 Borla exhaust and SCCA stock rules will let me change the h-pipe as long as I leave the cats. I want the most power, regardless of sound.