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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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1999 C5 went through a flooded intersection (aprox 1.5 ft depth). Changed the plugs and discovered water. Getting a lot of advise but nothing concrete. This is my daily driver and would like some input from you all. Thanks in advance, JD
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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1999 C5 went through a flooded intersection (aprox 1.5 ft depth). Changed the plugs and discovered water. Getting a lot of advise but nothing concrete. This is my daily driver and would like some input from you all. Thanks in advance, JD
OK. Does the car run OK after you changes the plugs?

If so you are good to go and don't worry about it.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Many times when an engine injests water it will bend a rod or break the block. If it still ran OK after the incident I would pull the plugs and spin it over to force out any remaining water and then do an oil change because if water is in the cylinders it probably ran down to the crankcase. Good Luck
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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i havent actually put the plugs back in and restarted it yet. i was wondering if i should change the oil first even though it looks fine.. the engine hasnt ran since i went thru the water. the engine stalled out and the starter wouldnt turn over until i pulled the plugs to get the water out. i got about a half gallon of water out of the intake when i opened the throttle body
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Good luck with your problem
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by joker5delta
i havent actually put the plugs back in and restarted it yet. i was wondering if i should change the oil first even though it looks fine.. the engine hasnt ran since i went thru the water. the engine stalled out and the starter wouldnt turn over until i pulled the plugs to get the water out. i got about a half gallon of water out of the intake when i opened the throttle body
So, you found standing water in the cylinders when you pulled the plugs and a half gallon of water poured out when you opened the throttle body? That's probably fatal. A friend of mine didn't even fully submerge his intake and it hydrolocked it (bent the #3 rod), so that much water you're describing won't end well.

I would not try starting it until you opened it up to see what else went wrong.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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We had this happen to a customers Lexus RX 330

we pulled all the plugs turned the motor over several times by bumping the key. It shot water about 20 feet in the air hitting the roof!!!!
we then changed the oil twice after puting in the new plugs

No problems at all!!!!

I think problems come about when people try and start the engine after injesting water without removing the plugs. There is simply no space for all that water to go.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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YOu will get good responses here, I would wait it out a bit for additional info. I wish I knew more to help, but right now patience and a good engine guy are what you need. GL
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If it were me, I'd remove all the plugs and turn it over by hand to make sure it feels and sounds normal. Then use the starter to bump it over a bit before replacing the spark plugs and seeing if it will fire. If it fires and runs, change the oil and count your lucky stars.

After drying everything out completely, of course.

Good luck.
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I agree. Turn the engine over by hand several times with the plugs out. If it doesn't jam in any way, then use the starter motor to turn it over without the plugs. If you detect no lugging or jamming up, put the plugs back in and give it a try.
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Originally Posted by chuffo302stang
We had this happen to a customers Lexus RX 330

we pulled all the plugs turned the motor over several times by bumping the key. It shot water about 20 feet in the air hitting the roof!!!!
we then changed the oil twice after puting in the new plugs

No problems at all!!!!

I think problems come about when people try and start the engine after injesting water without removing the plugs. There is simply no space for all that water to go.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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I'd say not that big of a deal. I once drove my Wrangler through 4ft of water until the engine shut off b/c it was sucking in straight water. I pulled the plugs, cranked it over so it would spray all the water over. Oil change, crank it over without starting, then another oil change. Did this 4 times. Just keep checking the oil, once the milkiness is gone you know the water is gone. After that fire the engine up and let it idle. You can also pour some seaform in the crank case to help displace any water.
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Originally Posted by CG C5
I'd say not that big of a deal. I once drove my Wrangler through 4ft of water until the engine shut off b/c it was sucking in straight water. I pulled the plugs, cranked it over so it would spray all the water over. Oil change, crank it over without starting, then another oil change. Did this 4 times. Just keep checking the oil, once the milkiness is gone you know the water is gone. After that fire the engine up and let it idle. You can also pour some seaform in the crank case to help displace any water.

It can easily be a big deal. Water does not compress, so when an engine gulps in a big enough shot of water into its cylinders something has to give on the compression stroke. It's typically the connecting rod that gives it up.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Yeah, hydro-locking an engine is not fun. I just went through this ordeal. To make a long story short, my girlfriend didn't realize how deep the water was and by the time she seen it was to deep it was to late. She said she was just idling through and it did this kind of damage. The car wouldn't turn over so I had it towed home, pulled plugs and water ran out of rear cylinders and opened intake and water came out there also. Arched over the starter and it wouldn't budge, so next we got a pull handle on crank bolt and finally got it to move, but it didn't sound good while spinning over. Removal of starter revealed this nasty hole!!!!

Here is half of the rod.....

I bought a nice motor a few weeks ago and drove the car for the first time yesterday in about 4 months, it sure did feel good!!!! Hope yours is not this way, if it is I hope you have full coverage insurance.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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I lost an 02 Audi V6 3.0 because of this. Had to sell the car for $4k as I was not willing to expend $5000 on an engine + labor.
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Back in my younger stupid days, I drove my Vw Scirocco through an overflowing stream over in England late one night. Yes, I was on a road...lol. It hydrolocked the engine but of course I didn't know it. A very nice British gentleman and his wife came along and towed me to their place. We pulled the plugs and cranked it over. Water blew out in a blast. Dried the plugs and put them in, it fired up. Steamed a lot. I had the oil changed the next day but it was fine. Ovbiously that little engine didn't have the power or torque of a Corvette so busting a rod didn't happen.
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I agree, change the oil before you attempt to start it. Turn the motor over by hand, with plugs removed. I would also have the drain plug open on the pan to let any water out.

Once you believe all water is out after turning the motor over, prime the engine to get oil in the top of the motor. I would pull the intake off, check the Knock sensore for standing water. valve covers come off and check the heads for standing water. Basically pul off what you can without having to dig really deep first.
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People actually drive their Vettes in rain storms?,,,the horror I tells ya'
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck. Keep us updated and good luck. We'll keep our fingers crossed.
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