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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Just returned from Florida to 10 degrees in the Midwest. Decided to see how the C5 liked cold weather today. Although it never likes to go into reverse when cold, the tranny shifted amazingly smooth. The driveability of this car never ceases to amaze me.

But the real treat was how strongly the motor pulled in this dense air. I couldn't believe the difference. It was like someone bolted a blower on while I was gone. Can any of our Northern brothers attest to this too? You guys who store your cars during winter need to clean out the moth ***** and get motoring! Winter is a poor man's supercharger.

Hold up, my wife is saying something. What's that honey? You need a stamp? No problem, I'll run up to the Post Office for you. Be back in about 2 hours.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Amherst
Just returned from Florida to 10 degrees in the Midwest. Decided to see how the C5 liked cold weather today. Although it never likes to go into reverse when cold, the tranny shifted amazingly smooth. The driveability of this car never ceases to amaze me.

But the real treat was how strongly the motor pulled in this dense air. I couldn't believe the difference. It was like someone bolted a blower on while I was gone. Can any of our Northern brothers attest to this too? You guys who store your cars during winter need to clean out the moth ***** and get motoring! Winter is a poor man's supercharger.

Hold up, my wife is saying something. What's that honey? You need a stamp? No problem, I'll run up to the Post Office for you. Be back in about 2 hours.

Better not forget the stamps or you will be gone four hours!


I haven't driven mine in temps that low, not good for my soft tires but at 25 or so, yes you can feel the diff!
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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yep, you sir are correct. dense air is the ****.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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They run great in the cold!
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Yup, free hp. Only problem is traction
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevo92z28
Yup, free hp. Only problem is traction
just give it enough gas, and it wants to go the other way. It's 21 degrees currently here in Kansas, and yes it's a free HP bump.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevo92z28
Yup, free hp. Only problem is traction


I miss it during summer time, just imagine now...
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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The cold air we are having now really does wake up the car - a very noticable difference in throttle response.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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As a Pilot I've always said, " there are only two good things about cold weather. No bugs, and you're engines run like stink"

You guys know there are airports where normal airplanes can't even take off when it's hot because of the lack of air density. They don't develop enough power.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Yea, its a big difference, the only problem is you don't get as much traction on the cold pavement/tires, I was spinning wheels in 3rd (which was fun but be careful)


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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Yep, I was aware of the effect temp has on both turbine performance as well as the lifting surface. I've always thought that song "Wind Beneath My Wings" was a complete load of crap since it's the low pressure area above the wing that does the lifting.

And, yeah, I did notice a major lack of traction but initially blamed it on salt residue on the streets.

I wonder what the dyno change would be with a stock LS1 between say 80 degrees and 10 degrees? Maybe 15-20 HP?


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As a Pilot I've always said, " there are only two good things about cold weather. No bugs, and you're engines run like stink"

You guys know there are airports where normal airplanes can't even take off when it's hot because of the lack of air density. They don't develop enough power.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Love dense air as well - it's good for FI

Looking for it to be real dense on January 16th @ Private Track Rental!

Thanks,Matt
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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I also love the cold weather and 20# of boost they are a match in heaven
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Yep it is true. I experience it the other day at 24 degrees. I was going to start a thread about the free power boast I had on my car. The guys who park them away for the winter miss out on a real punch in the seat of the pants.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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You guys should come up tp 5600 ft above sea level with a DA of 8k feels like you are driving a geo metro it's not even fun.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Yep.....kind of a great wake up for the Vette.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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AIR a 10* drop in temp is good for a 2% increase in fwhp N/A it's even more for us blower guys.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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I'll trade a bunch of HP in my 04Z for the temp here, when I go for a ride in Scottsdale

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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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The colder denser(denser air has more oxygen) air has great effects on the LS1. As the air enters the intake, it cools the MAF wire. The colder the MAF wire, the more it thinks it is getting more air. Then it sends a signal to the puter for more fuel. More fuel + denser air = more power!
Acts in turn like a dry shot of N20. Only not to that extreme.
Aint it fun?!
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Had fun with that dense air under boost just today

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